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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 29 Dec 2017

      The surprising fact that science works at all is a strong indication that our universe is mechanical.

      4 replies 1 retweet 18 likes
    2. Lucian Teodorescu‏ @LucT3o 29 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Plinz

      What does “mechanical” mean? Isn’t it defined in terms of “laws of the universe”?

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 29 Dec 2017
      Replying to @LucT3o

      According to my current best understanding it means that it can be implemented on a Turing machine.

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    4. Lucian Teodorescu‏ @LucT3o 29 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Plinz

      Interesting point of view! Never have thought of it like that. Does this entail the universe is deterministic?

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    5. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 29 Dec 2017
      Replying to @LucT3o

      You can create true randomness by including an incompressible bitstring into a deterministic computation. However, the unpredictability of local phenomena in our universe probably can be easier explained by non-locality.

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      Shulgin’s Daemon‏ @Serotophile 29 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Plinz @LucT3o

      Does this not qualify as hypercomputation, ie. not strictly a Turing machine?

      3:22 AM - 29 Dec 2017
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        2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 29 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Serotophile @LucT3o

          No, why? Nothing stops you from writing an arbitrarily long sequence of unpredictable bits into the initial state of the machine.

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        3. Shulgin’s Daemon‏ @Serotophile 29 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Plinz @LucT3o

          Ah so then something exists _outside_ the Turing machine, which gave rise to it.

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        4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 29 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Serotophile @LucT3o

          Exactly, this is a problem that cannot be solved from within the machine, because its inhabitants are causally insulated from it. It is a much smaller problem than any competing ontology that I know of, because a Turing machine is so very cheap to make, but it is abhorrent.

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