I’ve actually been pleasantly surprised, even when it gets heated, at the level of debate on this subject on the dissident right. On both sides of the Atlantic. Valuable discussions taking place. On the lib side they’re twisted into logical pretzels & throwing feces at the wall.
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Even some of the basic bitch MAGA tier ppl: at least they’re intellectually consistent, even if I disagree w/ their premises. “NATO is to defend against Russia, Russia bad, Germany giving $ to Russia, that is bad, Trump is right.” That is the argument. Murica good, russia bad.
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The libs take the same premise: “NATO is to defend against Russia. Russia is bad. Very, very bad. Mean to gays + stole our election. They’re Hollywood villain bad.” And then? Merkel is still in the right to finance them & Dotard Drumpf is the villain for calling it out? Insane.
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None of this makes any fucking sense. They’ve lost their minds. Tbh, would be better to go back to ‘04 & take up the anti-American imperialism abroad schtick But they can’t. Cause they’re trying to play “the real patriots”, so being explicitly against putting US First looks bad
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So they’re stuck in this bizarre mental gymnastics place of “Russia is bad” & simultaneously “Trump, who’s trying to take away Russia’s money, he’s also bad” & simultaneously “Germany, who is giving Russia $ is good” + “we’re good ppl for hating Russia but wanting them to have $”
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The only way out is “Trump is trying to shatter NATO to help Russia”. How? By defending they pay “their fair share”. That they meet 2% targets. Remember, we’re still in lib mindset. They still hate Russia. They want strong NATO. Muh allies. Why shouldn’t allies pay then libs?
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*mumble mumble, dotard, mumble* There is no good reason, from the shitlib premise. It’s still anti-Russia for muh allies to pay more. So what’s the problem? Why is Drumpf at fault for being anti-Russia like you lib? Cause he put America First. That’s what bothers them.
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It’s the same as it was back in ‘04. They hated Bush & sides w/ the Euros. Don’t get me wrong: Euros were right re: Iraq etc. But my point is libs never meant it. See their praise of Bush now & support for pointless wars. There was never a principle. Lol. Was just useful to them.
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I’m beginning to ramble but the short version is libs have lost the plot. They’ve always been a little fucked in the head but this experience has broken them. Our guys still have their wits about them & im enjoying the back & forth over US/NATO/Russia here on the dissident right
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