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    Scott Westerfeld‏Verified account @ScottWesterfeld Apr 28

    If every incel somehow got a girlfriend, the net violence in the world would only go up. Because guys who think like this are violent to their girlfriends. It's not their singleness that's dangerous; it's the way they think about women.

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      2. Scott‏ @RunawayScott Apr 29
        Replying to @ScottWesterfeld

        Ok this word only entered my consciousness about 13 hours ago. WTF is incel?

        11 replies 2 retweets 40 likes
      3. UnFNbelievable‏ @InFNsanity Apr 29
        Replying to @RunawayScott @ScottWesterfeld

        I had to learn it this week too ... involuntary celibacy - men who can't get women to have sex with them. (Feel like vomiting) apparently the van driver killer in Canada was an incel and that incited his attack. 😣

        6 replies 3 retweets 117 likes
      4. UnFNbelievable‏ @InFNsanity Apr 29
        Replying to @InFNsanity @RunawayScott @ScottWesterfeld

        I should clarify. "Incel" is a specific group, not all involuntarily celibate men. Incels have entitled and violent beliefs about women. I don't know too much on it yet and maybe that's a good thing! 😉

        8 replies 3 retweets 140 likes
      5. Marla in GA  🏳️‍🌈 ☮️ 🥔 🍐 🌊‏ @MarlaCaldwell Apr 29
        Replying to @InFNsanity @RunawayScott @ScottWesterfeld

        "Incel" was actually coined by a woman who ran a blog & semi-support group for people regardless of gender who were celibate but didn't want to be, and acknowledged that often it's about learning social skills (among other reasons). Then misogynists hijacked it & became men only.

        6 replies 19 retweets 226 likes
      6. Patrick Gerard‏ @PatrickGerard01 Apr 29
        Replying to @MarlaCaldwell @InFNsanity and

        This is a thing that frustrates me. I’ve read how “incel” was also used and useful in the trans community. I can recall uses of the phrase “friend zone” that did not accuse women (but which were about the idea of self-presentation).

        2 replies 0 retweets 32 likes
      7. Patrick Gerard‏ @PatrickGerard01 Apr 29
        Replying to @PatrickGerard01 @MarlaCaldwell and

        I think there are many mentally ill or socially challenged people for whom it is useful to acknowledge some basic principles with or about. One is that they need to be attteactive and explicitly ask out people appropriately, which is hard.

        1 reply 1 retweet 21 likes
      8. Patrick Gerard‏ @PatrickGerard01 Apr 29
        Replying to @PatrickGerard01 @MarlaCaldwell and

        But explicitly asking questions is key to affirmative consent. Also: many people’s awkwardness or status (esp. financial class, trans, etc) can interfere with ability to form relationships. Relevant to not just dudes but disadvantaged PoC, single moms. Celibacy snowballs.

        2 replies 1 retweet 21 likes
      9. Marla in GA  🏳️‍🌈 ☮️ 🥔 🍐 🌊‏ @MarlaCaldwell Apr 29
        Replying to @PatrickGerard01 @InFNsanity and

        Yes, trans or gender non-conforming ppl can have trouble finding partners even if they have good social skills, esp in small towns or remote areas, as can physically disabled, mentally ill, autistic, socially awkward or low self-esteem folks, or folks in tough situations. Not…

        1 reply 1 retweet 33 likes
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      2. Jari Heiska  🇫🇮‏ @kumimono Apr 28
        Replying to @ScottWesterfeld @the_moviebob

        I'm doubtful. I'd imagine majority of them just cherrypick the things about that culture that make them feel better at this moment in their lives. That thin veneer will just melt away if they get their life in order. Optimistist is my middle name.

        5 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
      3. Susieus Maximus  🐙 🌵‏ @SusieusMaximus Apr 28
        Replying to @kumimono @ScottWesterfeld @the_moviebob

        Ask a woman. You have optimism. We have experience.

        4 replies 6 retweets 385 likes
      4. Jari Heiska  🇫🇮‏ @kumimono Apr 28
        Replying to @SusieusMaximus @ScottWesterfeld @the_moviebob

        That is fair. But it doesn't shake my optimism.

        5 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      5. Susieus Maximus  🐙 🌵‏ @SusieusMaximus Apr 28
        Replying to @kumimono @ScottWesterfeld @the_moviebob

        So you don't really care about the danger to women (and other men) these guys pose, you're just going to stick with the rose-colored glasses?

        2 replies 2 retweets 230 likes
      6. Jari Heiska  🇫🇮‏ @kumimono Apr 28
        Replying to @SusieusMaximus @ScottWesterfeld @the_moviebob

        I don't think vast majority of them pose a danger. That is the admittedly limited view I have of the incel culture. Not really a thing worth more than a cursory look to me, IRL. And I stay away from fringe groups of any kind online. Not worth the headache.

        11 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      7. Susieus Maximus  🐙 🌵‏ @SusieusMaximus Apr 28
        Replying to @kumimono @ScottWesterfeld @the_moviebob

        They probably don't pose a danger to you, and you don't seem to care if they pose a danger to women, despite their obvious contempt for consent and delight in violence toward women. Enjoy your optimism.

        5 replies 4 retweets 316 likes
      8. Aimee (DevaAshera)‏ @Deva_Ashera Apr 29
        Replying to @SusieusMaximus @kumimono and

        He is right about one thing, most of them are likely harmless. The kind that talk big online but would shrink away from any threat or challenge in real life. That said, their mindset is dangerous and can spread to those that will hurt others for real.

        3 replies 1 retweet 25 likes
      9. Angela Vasquez-Giroux Wittrock  💅🏼‏ @AyeVeeGee Apr 29
        Replying to @Deva_Ashera @SusieusMaximus and

        I mean, define harmless. Likely to drive through a crowd? Maybe not. But likely to abuse women? Absolutely. Being harassed or abused or doxxed isn’t harmless.

        1 reply 3 retweets 22 likes
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      2. Tara‏ @x_TaraS_x Apr 29
        Replying to @ScottWesterfeld @izzyelle

        Of the type of stuff incels post...dehumanising and predatory. Though I’ve seen the media outlets focus on how they rate women’s attractiveness. Yes that’s more important to know than the danger at the heart of the misogyny 🙄pic.twitter.com/qHjp7eOeZE

        28 replies 52 retweets 220 likes
      3.  🦇Jemma 🦇‏ @PintSizedCosmos Apr 29
        Replying to @x_TaraS_x @ScottWesterfeld @izzyelle

        I’ve seen this before and it made me feel so sick. On so many levels.

        1 reply 0 retweets 57 likes
      4. Tara‏ @x_TaraS_x Apr 29
        Replying to @PintSizedCosmos @ScottWesterfeld @izzyelle

        It’s horrendous. I didn’t like sharing tbh but there’s so much on this topic which infers how we incite this violence..when here is one showing girls & women do nothing to incite this predatory behaviour. He just wanted to feel powerful and important. #aboutpowernotsex

        1 reply 0 retweets 70 likes
      5.  🦇Jemma 🦇‏ @PintSizedCosmos Apr 29
        Replying to @x_TaraS_x @ScottWesterfeld @izzyelle

        Exactly, we get blamed “she was wearing this and that” “she led me on” so often, but it’s never actually about that. It’s about power and entitlement and dehumanising us. Thank you for sharing. This needs to be seen. x

        1 reply 2 retweets 82 likes
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