Scott Madin

And I need younger people especially to understand that as recently as a decade ago this was basically the entire country’s attitude (and still is in many places, though the volume has gone down)https://twitter.com/ellle_em/status/1407417513726648322 …

Tekla is younger than me (born in 1990, to my 1983) and talks about how everything bad was called “gay” in school. I got that too, but also heard “f****t” being yelled or guffawed every thirty seconds or so. “D*ke” was less common but also used.

I remember when the supreme court of Hawaii ruled that the state couldn't prohibit same-gender marriages, in 1993. It was such a brief moment of hope, but the backlash (including, of course, DoMA) was—to 2021 sensibilities—UNBELIEVABLY vicious

Yeah a nuance that is lost now in the DoMA discussion is that if it hadn’t been that there probably would have been a big push for a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage at the federal level. Republicans were certainly still working on that state by state under Bush

there absolutely would have been. there might have been even if they'd had to override Clinton's veto and DoMA still became law that way—and IIRC they had the votes to do it. the kind of rhetoric Congressmen and Senators were freely using while debating that bill…YIKES

And not just Republicans.

oh yeah moving to Oregon and learning the very specific history around the state's gay marriage ban was wild