it started earlier than before this year and seems to be much worse. i’m honestly wondering if there’s not TERFiness happening behind the no kink at pride shit since they’re all about Protecting The Babies.
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Replying to @diannaeanderson @femmina
it definitely has that aroma to it.
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Replying to @ScottMadin @diannaeanderson
I've been sort of scanning through the profiles of folks who are particularly loudly anti and trying to see like...where this might be originating and it's...unclear? but looks/feels very TERF infused fandomy
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Replying to @femmina @ScottMadin
this is very deep into internet lore, but a few years ago, TERFs spent a lot of time on tumblr with a campaign against the term “queer” as an umbrella term, so shit like that is absolutely within their ability.
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Replying to @diannaeanderson @femmina
I just saw a screencap of a kink-at-pride-makes-the-cishets-think-we're-filthy-degenerates type saying "excuse me, I _am_ 'queer'", with the scare quotes, so I think that part hasn't gone away at all.
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Replying to @ScottMadin @femmina
it’s honestly scary. i’m less involved in tumblr than I used to be which is why I don’t see it as much (I rarely see ~discourse~ over there).
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Replying to @diannaeanderson @ScottMadin
there's also definitely something else going on? like the terves are part of it but something else is in there that I can't quite pin down
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Replying to @femmina @diannaeanderson
fandom antis were _very quickly_ making the leap from "you like a ship in which I think one of the characters is abusive" to "you're an abuser", and I'm seeing some no-kink-at-pridesters go very quickly from "you think seeing leather won't harm kids" to "you're a pedo".
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i can tell you, that the family friend that wore leather short shorts and made gift baskets with his husband wasnt the family friend that was a creep or worse. these kids are too inside
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this tho. the whole logic of "openly kinky people are uniquely predatory" is ridiculous not because kinky people never violate consent but because people who are habitual boundary violators are *so often* extremely "normal"
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(somewhat relatedly, as reylo shippers I knew would put it, abusive relationships typically do not start with the abuser _trying to kill_ the victim before they even know each other. they start with "sweetness".)
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as someone who lived through the Edward Cullen is an Abusive Asshole discourse, it is fascinating to me how that discourse lacked the “if you like edward you’re an abuser” kind of rhetoric that’s now pretty common.
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for sure. and there was definitely at least as much reason to read _that_ relationship as, at the least, unhealthy; but _it's fiction_.
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