You're right, for your definition of persuading. Or is your confusion a sign that you might be "discovering you are wrong about something?"
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This is obviously far from that, Scott. You're clearly smart enough to differentiate between thought experiments and pathological liars.
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If Trump is a skilled persuasive liar then doesn't that give validity to the people intelligent enough to see through him?
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The conflation of lying and persuading is staggering. Add neuro-linguistic delusion and narcissism and it makes for great entertainment tho
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sounds like analogy
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