Simon, you could answer my questions, or you could request the longer expiation I’ve offered, but psychoanalyzing me is condescending and I figured you for better than that.
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I’m not attempting to psychoanalyze you, and I’m happy to answer a question—what’s the question? (I’m sorry if I missed it.)
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Our conversation ended with me posing a question. And if you go all the way back to the beginning, you’ll see it started when you joined the comments of my original post which also asked a question.https://twitter.com/JoshHochschild/status/1359529288425472001 …
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Josh Hochschild @JoshHochschildReplying to @SimonDeDeo @zenahitzThank you for pressing me, I think this has been a helpful exchange. I'd be interested in your thoughts, if you have any, as to why there hasn't been more public discussion, or even acknowledgment, of what I'm interested in (the vitiating-condition Y-factors, not the X-cases).1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes -
That’s a harder question. A great deal of attention has been given to particular claims and scenarios. But I would agree that your position, which explicitly refrains from scenario-posing, has received much less attention.
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Probably the most prominent person that your position reminds me of is
@ScottAdamsSays. Scott has general suspicions, without committing to a particular scenario, and is much more interested in the second-order question...3 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
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For example, Scott might talk about how funny it would be if the Republicans stole the 2022 election “in a way the Democrats say was impossible in 2020”.
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Simon DeDeo Retweeted Josh Hochschild
I think your complaint might be about what attracts media attention. A particular story might capture the attention of OAN, for example. This may be an example of narrative bias...https://twitter.com/JoshHochschild/status/1359662820456095745?s=20 …
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Have you read the Times magazine article that got our conversation started? Or other reports from the fall that anticipated it (but were dismissed then as “conspiracy theories”)?
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Yes, I read the Times article—I think your response there is more about stolen-as-fairness. Your later talk about ballots possibly being miscounted seems more on the second-order side.
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Where
@ScottAdamsSays is helpful is explaining how that article can be interpreted in two entirely different ways. Two movies. Boastful brag of heroic, patriotic stand, or guilty confession of shamefully anti-democratic coup.2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
No crimes are alleged in that article. Republicans got outplayed. The pandemic probably helped a lot.
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This is true. It describes a massive, coordinated, extra-legal (not illegal) effort to influence the outcome. (Certain moves could have been ruled illegal, but that’s part of the game too.)
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This article doesn’t allege crimes exactly either, but it’s a different “movie”.https://americanmind.org/salvo/the-coming-coup/ …
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