He wouldn’t try to fix a system that wasn’t broken. His involvement shows the normal channels didn’t work, or were not fast enough.
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Bill Taylor: “[Trump] did insist that President Zelensky go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations of Biden and 2016 election interference, and that President Zelensky should want to do this himself.” LOL Trump is trying to put a veneer of legality on bribery.
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No, that was a second hand “overheard” phone conversation by an aid in a restaurant, remembered three months after the fact. The real quote from Sondland was: Zelensky had to "clear things up and do it in public." That’s different, isn’t it? There is nothing wrong with that.
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nope, this was Bill Taylor's testimony from October based on what Tim Morrison told him Trump told Sondland. and whether they call it a "quid-pro-quo" or not, various people admit to what is a quid-pro-quo, including Mulvaney. https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-wanted-zelensky-to-publicly-say-he-was-probing-biden …
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All international relations are quid pro quo. The quote is from Taylor’s aid Morrison, from an overheard call in a restaurant, remembered three months after the fact. Sondland was on the call. I don’t see any problem anyway. Knowing about the Bidens is in the National Interest.
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quid-pro-quo is ok if the quo is for the country. if it's for yourself or your campaign, it's bribery. if Warren becomes President in 2020, would it be ok for her to condition $400M in aid to Russia, on Russia publicly announcing an investigation into the Trump family?
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What if it is for both? National Interest that also aligns with personal interest? Very common situation for a President. Frankly, if Warren is President, we will have worse problems. I’m sure you will agree all the Trumps have been investigated more than anyone in history.
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how can Trump be the most investigated president in history if we don't even have his tax returns? also, since he appears to be the most crooked president in US history, he should be (but isn't yet) the most investigated president in history. sometimes correlation is causation.
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You didn’t answer if National Interest aligns with the President’s personal interest.
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how can it be in the national interest to investigate Hunter Biden for getting a high paying boardmember job bc of his name? that would be a politically motivated investigation. has Trump called for investigating everyone in the US who has a boardmember job bc of their name?
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I thought you were being sarcastic at first. Seems important to me to know if Ukraine has any influence on the potential next president’s son.
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Actually, I think Biden should withdraw because of the cloud of suspicion and clearly unethical behavior of his son. OTOH I don't see why withholding aid until *announcement* on *CNN* was justified. Only plausible reason to me so far is extorting Ukraine for political benefit.
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The reason offered (somewhere in the transcripts of interviews) was that unless Ukraine committed to it publicly, they would never actually do it. In the business world, that's called "getting them a little bit pregnant."
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