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Dull scold. No, I wasn't looking for that. Subtracting adjustments from total measured warming isn't a "discrepancy". Of what? Asking you to explain yourself obviously triggers emotional response. No further interest in helping you untangle wtf you are trying to argue.
451 with no latitute changes (and no related adjustment) shows slight cooling. 1200+ including those 451 shows 1.5 warming. 1.05 if you remove other potential bias. If you don't understand that it implies latitude adjustment produce a warming bias you're useless in the debate.
Raw for all US stations shows warming of about ~0.7°C. Adjustments roughly double this. So the bulk of your "implied" (not demonstrated) discrepancy appears simply that your sample is a very cool one relative to the entire raw population. No adjustments involved. Why?
Ah lol, I read the original Heller link closely again. "cooling since the 1930’s increased when using a stable set of stations". So the 451 set still shows net warming, just *more* cooling (unquantified) in the raw since 1930s. Which is 100% expected given TOB period.
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Read it yourself. https://realclimatescience.com/2017/01/zeke-debunks-himself-twice/ … It is only "cooling" because he cherry picks the 30s spike as the trend start, and because we head right in the TOB bias (shifting stations from noon to dawn across the country, over decades), plus the other biases.
Heller wasn't "testing relocation adjustments". Nor was the Zeke post he claimed to be replying to really about that. You'll notice that Heller didn't at all address the actual points Zeke made – try reading it. Just a classic Heller handwave. http://rankexploits.com/musings/2014/how-not-to-calculate-temperatures-part-3/ …
The bad contrarian myths remind me of viruses. You have to create a new anti-virus for each myth. They pretend they are doing science but the logic falls apart. The tell is that they are not in scientific journals and never admit their mistakes.
Again, this is all basic logic. But it is sometimes hard to get to the root of the myth if it is obscured in statistical fallacies. The Great Barrier Reef is still in jeopardy, and that is due to global warming oceans largely due to AGW. Oceans aren't even in this discussion.
Geoff Price Retweeted Geoff Price
It was if you go far enough up. :) Scott noted "skepticism" on coral, didn't clarify based on what. Greg tore off into false claims about sea level data (claimed three centuries of steady rise, no acceleration). Where we started.https://twitter.com/geoffmprice/status/1080886107577798656 …
Geoff Price added,
I don't have link, but at least one expert I read says the bleaching is more from agricultural runoff, and also that coral routinely bleaches and recovers. I don't contend that view is credible. I wouldn't be able to judge.
Lots of factors have impacted reefs for sure. For mass *bleaching* as on the (giant) GBR & other reefs, lots of bleaching isfar from any runoff. Papers like this one showed the strong correlation with temp, found no correlation with water quality. http://www.nature.com/articles/nature21707.epdf …
I think the core of the resistance is around the claims that maybe this level of mass bleaching is normal. But physiologically we understand the cause (heat stress) clearly and predict it. Much several hundred year old coral specimens lost 2016-17 GBR. Proxy evidence supports etcpic.twitter.com/4g5JsQ8iRg
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