Re: "You OTOH never adressed my question about what was the relevance of your question to the issue." Nope. I addressed it multiple times. Your response was just to make up nonsense with no evidence, as usual
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Because Heller is lying. We have been over this many times Scott. https://tamino.wordpress.com/2018/08/08/usa-temperature-can-i-sucker-you/ …pic.twitter.com/Z3Cq8rBwQz
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Pothole54 technique: 1) Find a good Fact-Check article (linked below). Then locate all papers doing QA on the process (AGU100 is a good source). 2) Understand the core concepts of the process (not necessarily the details). 3)Compare with skeptic claim. https://www.factcheck.org/2015/02/nothing-false-about-temperature-data/ …
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Sorry Jeff that doesn’t make sense nor look like science. Checking of a model has to be based on observation, not reasoning. Heller’s process to check who’s right is actually the only possible one AFAICT
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I am probably going to start with this paper. It contains a similar histogram of the number adjustments in either direction.https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2011JD016187 …
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Look for the most common fallacious signs in the skeptic claim. (Dan Lubin, the sun guy has a whole video on that.) Cherry picking, Red Herrings, Straw Man, Impossible Expectations, Statistical Fallacies. Ordinary people can learn these logical fallacies.
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Comprehensive list of fallacies used in arguments:https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies …
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In other words, the debunking process can be systematic, and a fun process once you separate out all the noise from the core concepts. Is the data set representative of the problem? What are the components of Warming (e.g. atmosphere, oceans)? Are factoring in the right things?
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Although potholer54 (Peter Hadfield) I think is a geologist, his technique can be used to some extent by all of us. "Read the studies," he says His YouTube Channel:https://youtu.be/17mKIKGEF5E?list=PL82yk73N8eoX-Xobr_TfHsWPfAIyI7VAP …
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We can look at raw data on the 450 stations that never moved in the US and see if (with some margin for other minor factor likely to impact the trend) the rise appear. Heller app show it doesn’t. This need verification.
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And in other countries too. I am trying to do that in France too but availability of data is not as good than what anglo institution provide imo.
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