Fair enough.
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I would love to join or start a movement: "Conservatives for conservative solutions to AGW", but it is very hard to at the moment. Democrats are hyperbolic and using CC as a weapon, and I am moving past the AGW stage into good energy policies. Not Macron's.
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Also fair enough. I am still in the research phase myself so I don’t have a preference (although I am quite the contrarian, as I am sure you noticed).
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"The Pairwise Homogenization Algorithm was designed as an automated method of detecting and correcting localized temperature biases due to station moves, instrument changes, microsite changes, and meso-scale changes like urban heat islands."http://berkeleyearth.org/understanding-adjustments-temperature-data/ …
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The counter argument is that ice has increased elsewhere.
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well, "it's complicated" once again. Antarctica is a problem child compared with the Arctic. And yes, adjustments are involved too. This talks about the supposed gain of ice in Antarctica. I will find a newer article. This one is 2015.https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/11/05/a-controversial-nasa-study-says-antarctica-is-gaining-ice-heres-why-you-should-stay-skeptical/?postshare=2541446754571422&utm_term=.4c495ab12e8e …
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If I may Jeff I think that's too much door opening and not enough focus. I firmly believe only doing one point thoroughly and see what we learn in the process is the only way to make progress, hence my call to start /w checking if raw datas say what Heller say they do. /1
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Zeke Hausfather, Tamino, Judith Curry and Goddard should debate. That would be interesting.
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I don't believe in debate format anymore for this (would have loved it at a time). I believe in identifying choke points for key affirmation and test it with fire. The adjusted vs unadjusted it Heller's choke point and we need to go past Heller first. It precludes every other.
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I agree. Debate won’t work.
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Not saying you’re wrong, but if you’re right then tribalism will reign supreme. Things will get increasingly ugly. Given the statist left is the predominant cultural force, it may soon be criminal to question climate change theories (theories which shift every few years).
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Can only speak for myself but it's precisely bc I observe Tribalism currently reign supreme I can't see a debate being productive those days.
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