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T. Greer
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I blog+write columns. Usually on: 1. Behavioral science 2. Macro-history 3. Modern Asian politics 4. Chinese strategic thought (that's where 1-3 meet!)

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    T. Greer‏ @Scholars_Stage 14 Dec 2018

    So let's say you were teaching a 400 level undergraduate class with the name of something like "The Dynamics of Civilization" or "The rise and fall of empires" or something on this theme. In essence, a s. science driven account of macro-history. What readings would you use?

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      2. T. Greer‏ @Scholars_Stage 14 Dec 2018

        Gat, Turchin, and Boix are my first instinct. Also Schultz's work on the origins of WEIRD psych. Various evo anth and cultural evolution papers of note would also probably make it on the syllabus. But I feel like there is room for one more big book.

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      3. T. Greer‏ @Scholars_Stage 14 Dec 2018

        [That is Azar Gat's WAR IN HUMAN CIVILIZATION - https://amzn.to/2EslwKF  [Peter Turchin's WAR & PEACE & WAR (though his other stuff works if the class has the math skills) - https://amzn.to/2PBSjxK  [Carles Boix's POLITICAL ORDER & INEQUALITY - https://amzn.to/2UHyGIi 

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      4. T. Greer‏ @Scholars_Stage 14 Dec 2018

        cc. @MarkKoyama, @Melanie_Xue, @Peter_Turchin, @JF_Schulz what would you do?

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      5. T. Greer‏ @Scholars_Stage 14 Dec 2018

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        Follow up thread:https://twitter.com/Scholars_Stage/status/1073755153075859456 …

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        So I was playing with this today and ended up creating a potential syllabus style reading list. My only fear is that it might be a bit too much for undergrads. Here is what I was thinking: https://twitter.com/Scholars_Stage/status/1073512245395546112 …
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      2. Isegoria‏ @Isegoria 14 Dec 2018
        Replying to @Scholars_Stage

        How many pages of dense material would be appropriate for such a class?

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      3. T. Greer‏ @Scholars_Stage 14 Dec 2018
        Replying to @Isegoria

        Oh I don't know. The thing I ended up creating is obviously too much. Generally speaking I would say 100 pages of material a week is the standard, with no more than 40 being especially dense

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      4. T. Greer‏ @Scholars_Stage 14 Dec 2018
        Replying to @Scholars_Stage @Isegoria

        Alternately, two sessions of 30 very dense pages is also realistic. Then again, I had a 400 level class once where we had to read a full book a week. But those were mostly narrative accounts, not theoretical ones

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      2. зануда, душноват‏ @GolerGkA 14 Dec 2018
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        Is Gibbon too obvious to even mention?

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      3. Barry Cotter‏ @BarryPCotter 14 Dec 2018
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        Ibn Khaldun over Gibbon

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      1. Georgian Tutuianu‏ @ThuggyPinch 15 Dec 2018
        Replying to @Scholars_Stage

        Check out Chris Blattman’s class here: https://chrisblattman.com/2017/05/22/final-lecture-order-violence/ … I think u might find some overlap specifically where he talks about the coffee/globalization boom in Latin America (starts week 4 slide 14) its a fantastic ex. of how important luck/elite competition is 4 development

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      1. Joseph O'Mahoney‏ @jpaomahoney 14 Dec 2018
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        William mcneill The Pursuit of Power: Technology, Armed Force, and Society since A.D. 1000

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      2. Bentley Allan‏ @bentleyballan 14 Dec 2018
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        If you'll excuse the self-promotion:http://www.cambridge.org/us/academic/subjects/politics-international-relations/international-relations-and-international-organisations/scientific-cosmology-and-international-orders?format=HB#T5jSKbglO1C7K3wd.97 …

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      3. Bentley Allan‏ @bentleyballan 14 Dec 2018
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        Also from IR: Gilpin, War and Change and Mark Z Taylor, The Politics of Innovation.

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      4. Bentley Allan‏ @bentleyballan 14 Dec 2018
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        And I personally would teach Mumford and something on energy (Tainter, Smil, or Rhodes)

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      2. Randall Parker‏ @futurepundit 14 Dec 2018
        Replying to @Scholars_Stage

        Note that he's asking for a "science driven account of macro-history". That tends to rule out older books that are scientifically obsolete. e.g. William H. McNeill's Plagues & Peoples seems dated at this point.

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      3. Whyvert‏ @whyvert 14 Dec 2018
        Replying to @futurepundit @Scholars_Stage

        It's a good question. To complement those choices I would try to find a survey book that gave the students an overview/comparison of various different theories of macro-history. Does such a thing exist?

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      4. Paul Hundred‏ @paul_hundred 14 Dec 2018
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        Not the big book you're looking for but I might assign something out of Randall Collins' Macrohistory collection of essays

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      5. Paul Hundred‏ @paul_hundred 14 Dec 2018
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        Might wanna look at the Other Russians - Korotayev, Nefedov, etc

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      1. S.R. Mogck‏ @SRAlsultani 14 Dec 2018
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        Conquest and Culture by Thomas Sowell.

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      1. Jeanne DeMund‏ @jcdemund 14 Dec 2018
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        Dirt: The Erosion of Civilizations by MacArthur Fellow David Montgomery. Maybe not the major text, but an additional reading.

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