The book "Synergetics" describes this as a choice between "synergic" and "dysergic" ways of being. NVC folks talk about "contributing to the wonderfulness of life" vs "tragic expressions of unmet needs". Buddhists point to "sukha" vs "dukkha": https://twitter.com/SarahAMcManus/status/1141919500763353088 … 13/
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In the learning community I'm part of, we talk about "collaborative circle" and "coercive circle" cultural platforms: https://upstartcollaboratory.org/the-circles-maps/ … 14/
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These collaborative and coercive ways of understanding the world are also represented in this drawing: 15/pic.twitter.com/42XZLmv360
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The center of the picture shows the coercive, dualistic mindset, with an "asshole angel" on a cloud and a self-flagellating devil in flames. Other figures are falling into hell, and trying to claw their way into heaven, showing the precarious nature of moralistic judgment. 16/
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The rest of the picture shows the post-judgmental mindset encompassing the dualistic. There is a living, verdant, tree-like limb, and a wintry, skeletal limb, representing the "both/and" awareness of the building up and breaking down of life, meaning, knowing, etc. 17/
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The dichotomy isn't clear here to me as the choice between coercive and cooperative feels one sided - the end state of a creative sense making feels to be collaborative co-creation. I think you're pointing at a level I havent yet attained. More recommendations for this?
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The dualistic nature of competition and coercion as a valuable and necessary frame along with cooperation and togetherness is something I've been exploring, but the thing you're pointing ay seems to be deeper
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Ah! Important questions, and I'm wanting to be clear on what you're pointing at. Is it, "Why is the dualistic coercive circle being held by the post-judgemental collaborative circle, instead of the desired state being entirely cooperative?"
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I drew a sketch to help talk about stuff! Here, the coercive / dualistic / blame-based circle is in red, and the collaborative / post-judgemental / post-blame circle is in blue:pic.twitter.com/hwQQpD8uV5
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(I'm drawing this from memory, in reference to a model held by this community - so I may need to come back later and refine my presentation of it)
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Indeed! I did forget a key part of the model. The overlap of the two systems can be either a "muddle puddle" (confusing, without a community / container to guide sense-making) or a learning context, if there is scaffolding and support for navigating that liminal space.pic.twitter.com/Ht1kkLHWhc
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