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    Sarah McManus je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceQC

    Ok, I'm going to attempt a really long thread in response to this...https://twitter.com/QiaochuYuan/status/1118773759177924608 …

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    The Moloch post taught me how to see gods everywhere and it's mostly horrifying. Modern egregores are mostly bizarre alien mechanical monstrosities that don't care about their host humans. Children of Moloch, maybe. https://twitter.com/SarahAMcManus/status/1118740741394767872 …
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      2. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        I've been thinking a lot about this today, and now it's gotten all mixed up with a bunch of reading I was doing about Vajrayana and Tantra. I guess that's pretty appropriate!

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      3. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        (Qiaochu, I think you’ve read some of this stuff too, so I’m not assuming it’s new to you. I’ll write what’s coming up for me, and I figure it might be relevant for other folks as well)

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      4. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        So, horror: not just modern, not just egregores! (And egregores: not just horror! Could write another thread on friendly ones, little household gods, etc.) Probably handy to start off with these posts about seeing the world as a charnel ground:https://vividness.live/2012/08/22/charnel-ground/ …

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      5. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        And as a pure land:https://vividness.live/2012/09/11/pure-land/ …

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      6. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        And I think that Tantra perspective is an important base for any practice that involves looking at horror. (Vinay Gupta talks about this in his recent conversations with Daniel Thorson, which is a Whole ‘Nother Thread)

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      7. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        I also find myself wanting to point at some of @algekalipso ‘s stuff: https://qualiacomputing.com/2017/12/20/the-universal-plot-part-i-consciousness-vs-pure-replicators/ … I don’t always agree with his conclusions, and I find his work fascinating. There’s usually a chunk of math and physics leading up to the conclusion that I haven’t yet managed to grok.

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      8. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        I think there are at least a few different components of how someone could react to “Children of Moloch” memeplexes, and folks could get tangled up between them. (I may bungle this and would be glad of any help; words remain broken as usual)

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      9. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        Some things that make decent sense to me: 1. Molochian patterns freak me the fuck out, man! I am frightened, I am horrified. 2. Molochian patterns could kill me, and could destroy human civilization as we know it. 3. I want to live and thrive, and I want the same for humanity.

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      10. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        Flinching from horror has been adaptive for human survival! Flinch away from misplaced blood and shit → get fewer infections → have more surviving babies. I figure, treat it as a signal, as you would pain - "alert! this situation is not friendly to human survival"

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      11. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        And also, the value of a signal is dependent on its context. We’re now in a situation where there is no “away.” Reflexive flinching is no longer enough.

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      12. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        And we’ve had cultures clash and break down such that an action can mean “loving care” in one framework and “horror like unto misplaced bodily fluids” in another. Crazy-making!

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      13. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        If someone’s very reactive, getting some space between the gut reaction, and the meaning of it, and the choice of action, can help. If someone’s very numb, getting more connection with the gut reaction, and the meaning of it, and the choice of action, can help.

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      14. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        Now, here’s where things could get confused, if folks went on to: 4A: Moloch is Evil and some other things are Good; Moloch is entirely contaminated and some other things are pure. There’s dualism for you! And a whole bunch of stuff around attachment and aversion.

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      15. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        (This, I think, is why Scott Alexander’s post about “The Goddess of Everything Else” didn’t quite land for me? Because it’s about getting entirely free of the Darwinian charnel ground, and I think that’s a confusion.)

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      16. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        Or, folks could add “but it’s hopeless” to #3 and fall into a trap of: 4B: Moloch is Evil and no other things are Good. There’s nihilism for you:https://meaningness.com/nihilism-anxiety …

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      17. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        And there’s something here about… “horror that paralyzes” (like Lovecraftian nihilism) vs “horror that galvanizes” (like Feynman at the Oak Ridge plant, telling folks to store those nuclear materials further apart!)

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      18. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        Now, I want to pull in a few examples from biology & ecology, to point at how all this goes way deeper than any modern Moloch. (Perhaps a bit of bending some assumption back and forth until it snaps?)

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      19. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        Ok, so! - A pink flower - A green caterpillar covered in small white things - An iridescent beetle - A retrovirus (diagram) Any particular reactions so far, right off the bat?pic.twitter.com/3JD7vWxMCj

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      20. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        Let’s start with the flower. Maybe you find it beautiful, and you’re pleased?pic.twitter.com/qT4EYSY49c

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      21. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        Now you find out it is Striga, witchweed, a parasitic plant that sucks nutrients from cereal crops. It destroys the equivalent of 15 million meals per day in Africa. https://www.wur.nl/en/newsarticle/Parasitic-plants-cause-huge-damage-to-rice-crops-in-Africa.htm … You might feel horror, sadness, anger, resolve? Is it still beautiful?pic.twitter.com/SgBhgfoIXM

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      22. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        Or, perhaps, you find a caterpillar, covered in cocoons of parasitoid wasps. The larvae have eaten it from the inside out, and emerged through its skin. It will die soon. What does that bring up?pic.twitter.com/6hmaYoSx0w

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      23. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        As a child, I felt the horror, and would try to remove the cocoons, not knowing it was already doomed.

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      24. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        (Darwin felt the horror: "I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created parasitic wasps with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars.")

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      25. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        And yet. Without parasitoid wasps, and other diseases and predators that kill plant-eating insects, our own vital crops would fail. If baculoviruses did not liquefy caterpillars, human children would starve.

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      26. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        (Couldn’t find #s for parasitoids specifically, but biological control provides half the value of food production! Cock et al. 2012 - PDF via Google Scholar, search doi 10.1079/PAVSNNR20127043 )pic.twitter.com/EtYfnhQEQa

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      27. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        What emotion is there now? Is the photo still ugly?pic.twitter.com/6OD5goySj7

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      28. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        And the beetle! I find it beautiful! How about you?pic.twitter.com/5O1UuAIDn3

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      29. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        It’s also a dung beetle! Does that change how you feel? (Phanaeus vindex - I’ve seen ‘em in Florida!)pic.twitter.com/o0WF6w9Yo8

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      30. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        Consider that different species would have different valences (attraction / aversion) to the same stimuli. If dung beetles wrote poetry, they would compose odes to the sweet fragrance of life-giving shit.

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      31. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18. tra 2019.
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        Dung beetle poets: "Shit, triumphant prize of victors! Shit, nourishing cradle for babies! The ox anus, glorious fountain from which all good things flow!"

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