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    Sam Dumitriu‏ @Sam_Dumitriu Feb 5

    If unilateral tariff reduction would be 'savage' for British farming and smash "the UK ceramics sector into pieces" then it suggests consumers are greatly harmed by existing tariffs and would be better off without them.https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/exclusive-secret-plan-to-slash-tariffs-on-all-post-brexit-imports_uk_5c587b08e4b00187b553da30?ncid=other_twitter_cooo9wqtham&utm_campaign=share_twitter …

    3:40 AM - 5 Feb 2019
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      2. Daniel Pryor  😄‏ @DanielPryorr Feb 5
        Replying to @Sam_Dumitriu

        "...in a move that could flood the market with cheap goods" - perish the thought! Thank goodness people are stopping this sick filth!

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      3. Iron Economist‏ @IronEconomist Feb 5
        Replying to @DanielPryorr @Sam_Dumitriu

        In fairness - everyone should be in favour of incrementalism in this kind of policy. Tariff reductions like this should have like a ten year horizon on them so businesses can adapt smoothly and so it doesn’t just render huge chunks of capital worthless over night.

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      4. Alex Mazur‏ @mazuretsky Feb 5
        Replying to @IronEconomist @DanielPryorr @Sam_Dumitriu

        If the capital is worthless without tariffs it is probably objectively worthless. Instead of prolonging it's existence for ten years isn't it better to abolish tariffs tomorrow. There's something to be said about giving workers some time and/or support to adapt to the new reality

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      5. Alex Mazur‏ @mazuretsky Feb 5
        Replying to @mazuretsky @IronEconomist and

        But with them the problem isn't economics, rather politics & social unrest. Abolishing tariffs with ten years' warning is hard: who could've predicted Brexit in 2009? Or the Scottish independence referendum in 2004? New Labour thought that there will be English devolution by 2007

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      6. Iron Economist‏ @IronEconomist Feb 5
        Replying to @mazuretsky @DanielPryorr @Sam_Dumitriu

        If the last thirty years have shown anything in economics it’s that distributional consequences really matter. There is no such thing as ‘objective value’. Profit from government subsidy is still profit.

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      2. Jeremy Nicholson‏ @JeremyNic666 Feb 5
        Replying to @Sam_Dumitriu

        So NFU supports the Corn Laws - who knew? Being 'flooded by cheap imports' should be an objective of trade policy. There is a case for trade protection measures in specific areas if there is clear evidence of dumping - but overall, protectionist tariffs damage consumer welfare.

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      3. Erik Winther Paisley‏ @ewpaisley Feb 6
        Replying to @JeremyNic666 @Sam_Dumitriu

        Isn't dumping just even more flooding of cheap goods? It's transfer of wealth. Maybe better to not do export subsidies but just transfer the money directly into UK back accounts if the Chinese/Americans/whoever want to send money

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      4. Jeremy Nicholson‏ @JeremyNic666 Feb 6
        Replying to @ewpaisley @Sam_Dumitriu

        Logically, yes - 'dumping' (as recognised by WTO) is still a wealth transfer to consumers. Still, I think trade associations would be on stronger ground supporting temporary/targetted defence measures than opposing unilateral free trade in general, as appears to be the case here.

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      5. Erik Winther Paisley‏ @ewpaisley Feb 6
        Replying to @JeremyNic666 @Sam_Dumitriu

        But it isn't really a defense when you're just taxing domestic consumers to make sure they can't benefit from foreign export subsidies. It's rather flagellantic. That said government's shouldn't be subsidizing exports in the first place.

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      1. Fitzy‏ @ACCapitalist Feb 5
        Replying to @Sam_Dumitriu

        >Patrick Minford “unilaterally cut tariffs” >IEA “unilaterally cut tariffs” >me “lol no government would ever do that” >Liam Fox “think again bucko” @CAmoils Maybe the IEA does run the world... Dreams really do come true😍

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      1. Tory Member‏ @ToryMember Feb 5
        Replying to @Sam_Dumitriu @MrRBourne

        Is the suggestion here that the people of the U.K. should take constitutional decisions based on what’s best for the ceramics industry?!

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      1. Alex Mazur‏ @mazuretsky Feb 5
        Replying to @Sam_Dumitriu

        Interestingly enough, the burden of the agricultural tariffs is disproportionately borne by the poor, since the spend higher % of their earnings on food.

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      1. Peter Grey‏ @PerseverenceGB Feb 5
        Replying to @Sam_Dumitriu @MrRBourne

        We are being ripped off - that’s why we want to leave!! Support the products we do produce ( open the global gates and bring prices down on everything else ? )

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      2. J‏ @GermanFilmQuote Feb 5
        Replying to @Sam_Dumitriu

        "harmed"pic.twitter.com/bajpTWQjTU

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      3. J‏ @GermanFilmQuote Feb 5
        Replying to @GermanFilmQuote @Sam_Dumitriu

        *"greatly harmed"

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      1. Josh O'Brien‏ @JoshOBrienVideo Feb 5
        Replying to @Sam_Dumitriu @MrRBourne

        Amazing to see all these people suddenly become concerned with the fate of business and deeply committed to protecting farmers, after many years of intensely anti-business and anti-farming policy

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