Two pre-conditions. 1. You calm down and try very hard to be as charitable as possible to Ezra. Assume obviousness or even incompetence before malice. 2. Ezra compares the original Vox piece with his own recent piece and notices that the former insinuated Sam was a racist.
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1b. Assume Ezra is slick, unprincipled, helpless to stop virtue-signaling to his Vox base, surrounded by sycophants who rarely challenge his priors, unused to serious debate by someone who knows more than him, and uninterested in updating his views given evidence.
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Isn't it weird how people you disagree with are stubborn, virtue-signaling hucksters surrounded by sycophants; while those you agree with are serious, logical, utterly unbiased, flexible of mind, surrounded by thoughtful, rational, independent followers (who think just like you)?
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It is a little weird, but that's the price of admission when you're a socially-progressive, sex-positive, utilitarian, libertarian, centrist committed to Effective Altruism and grounded in evolutionary psychology. There are only two of us, but we're invariably correct. ;)
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I consider myself most to all of those qualifiers but also am a fan of Ezra Klein. He is a fantastic interviewer, and as worthy of a conversation as many that have been on the show
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I'll try to give Ezra a little more benefit of the doubt. Which of his interviews are your favorites?
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His recent interview of Melinda Gates is a good example of his interviewing skills. If you want to hear him engage with someone who has a different opinion with him, it's a bit dated but his debate of the senate Healthcare bill with Avik Roy is a good example of that
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@joerogan - he won't take sides and would ask questions listeners would think to. -
Rogan is no where near smart/informed enough to moderate such a debate. And i like Rogan.
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He is. I think he's "smarter" (= better critical thinker, keen to learn and able to) more than almost anyone in the mainstream media and almost everyone else with a podcast. He's smarter than most prominent scientists and science-popularisers, for example.
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It may indeed say much about me! Here's some reasons why prominent scientists, and experts deferring to experts should be treated critically - like Rogan often does more than most: http://www.bretthall.org/blog/singer-on-the-suffering-of-animals …
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Btw, he is special. And I don't think "celebrity" when I think of him. I think *very clever, critical thinker*. Lots and lots of people with graduate-level expertise have learned by rote not to think as Joe can. Especially about their own knowledge!
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You're talking about a guy that believed the moon landing was a hoax until a few years ago
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Not sure that’s true. Evidence? (Video?) Whatever the case does he still think that? If not...why did he change his mind? Was it a critical attitude? Isn’t everyone completely ignorant of the moon landing (& everything else) until they learn?
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of course you should. isn’t this one of those “tough conversations” you claim to want?
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You're taking Sam out of context. By tough conversations he means conversing with the likes of JP, C/D Murray, Ferguson, and Gad Saad about how SJWs are evil, etc. He doesn't mean tough conversations with regressives about non-issues such as health care, social injustice, etc.
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A misrepresentation. He has difficult conversations all the time. He agrees structural racism exists, that it should be rectified in some form. Read/listen. He’s not someone deserving of disparagement, least of racial disparagement. It’s ludicrous.
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He brought on Murray and didn't ask him a single challenging question. He has written on the merits of profiling, he said being afraid of a black man in an elevator is just rational, and he doesn't make the smallest effort to understand the position of a BLM advocate.
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Look at his more political guests. Ferguson, AHA, Frum, D/C Murray, Peterson; all far right. And in general how he defends a horrendous guy like Murray vs. having no tolerance when arguing with/about someone **slightly** left-leaning (Ta Nahisi, Klein, etc.).
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