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Author of The End of Faith, The Moral Landscape, Waking Up, and other bestselling books published in over 20 languages. Host of the Waking Up podcast.

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    Sam Harris‏Verified account @SamHarrisOrg Mar 28

    Sense and Nonsense about Discussing IQ and Race - Quillette http://quillette.com/2017/06/11/no-voice-vox-sense-nonsense-discussing-iq-race/ … via @QuilletteM

    9:24 AM - 28 Mar 2018
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      2. Jesse Livermore‏ @Jesse_Livermore Mar 28
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg @QuilletteM

        Sam, there's a lesson in this: you've made many efforts to open up dialogues on charged topics, in the hopes of preventing a descent into violence. But w/ topics like identity that hit so close to home, the choice is not dialogue or violence, it's silence or violence.

        3 replies 4 retweets 27 likes
      3. Jesse Livermore‏ @Jesse_Livermore Mar 28
        Replying to @Jesse_Livermore @SamHarrisOrg @QuilletteM

        As Robin explained on your show, people do not dialogue to find truth, they dialogue to signal & draw in resources. Identity topics have massive implications for both, and that's what the real fight is about.

        2 replies 4 retweets 39 likes
      4. Jesse Livermore‏ @Jesse_Livermore Mar 28
        Replying to @Jesse_Livermore @SamHarrisOrg @QuilletteM

        It's naive to think that people in totally different positions, with totally different incentives and motivations, who bear totally different costs, are ever going to be able to discuss such topics honestly, in earnest.

        1 reply 1 retweet 17 likes
      5. Jesse Livermore‏ @Jesse_Livermore Mar 28
        Replying to @Jesse_Livermore @SamHarrisOrg @QuilletteM

        Ezra Klein, in particular, is not someone who has any interest in a serious discussion of these topics. He's interested in producing content that a specific audience will applaud, ideally in a way that makes him look good. He will gladly advance that interest at your expense.

        3 replies 0 retweets 31 likes
      6. Jesse Livermore‏ @Jesse_Livermore Mar 28
        Replying to @Jesse_Livermore @SamHarrisOrg @QuilletteM

        He's talented, and is able to damage you without appearing like he's aggressively trying to. That fact makes attempts at open dialogue even more dangerous.

        1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
      7. Jesse Livermore‏ @Jesse_Livermore Mar 28
        Replying to @Jesse_Livermore @SamHarrisOrg @QuilletteM

        The correct approach is to recognize this unfortunate reality from the outset, and STAY AWAY. Only dialogue w/ people who have an incentive to be honest on some level, and who do not have an incentive, or an underlying desire, to do things that will cause you damage.

        6 replies 2 retweets 15 likes
      8. Jesse Livermore‏ @Jesse_Livermore Mar 28
        Replying to @Jesse_Livermore @SamHarrisOrg @QuilletteM

        And then, in turn, try to do the same w/ ur interlocutors: avoid damaging their reputations. An example here would be JP. Yes, some of what he says is off, especially the religious stuff, but he's a nice guy, very creative, & most importantly, has no desire to make you look bad.

        2 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
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      2. surpriseright‏ @surpriseright Mar 28
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg @QuilletteM

        Digging yourself a deeper hole every time you post about his. Just move on before you embarrass yourself further.

        2 replies 0 retweets 36 likes
      3. Jon Flynn‏ @Blickz55 Mar 28
        Replying to @surpriseright @SamHarrisOrg @QuilletteM

        How is Sam embarrassing himself? This is social justice warrior, PC nonsense. Anyone with the ability to think critically can see that Harris and Murray had a respectful discussion, and that The Bell Curve is not racist in the least.

        4 replies 0 retweets 53 likes
      4. surpriseright‏ @surpriseright Mar 28
        Replying to @Blickz55 @SamHarrisOrg @QuilletteM

        He claims not to be interested in discussing racial differences but has just posted an article that supports Murray's arguments. To be so invested in defending Murray while simultaneously claiming to have no interest in this is contradictory.

        8 replies 0 retweets 23 likes
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      2. Phil Torres‏ @xriskology Mar 28
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg @QuilletteM

        Sam, you have, once again, made a series of egregiously bad decisions (without apologizing). You are seriously damaging the atheist "brand"--it will take a lot of work to undo the legacy of your childishness,anti-intellectualism, and moral thoughtlessness.https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/27/15695060/sam-harris-charles-murray-race-iq-forbidden-knowledge-podcast-bell-curve …

        8 replies 3 retweets 40 likes
      3. Phil Torres‏ @xriskology Mar 28
        Replying to @xriskology @SamHarrisOrg @QuilletteM

        Let's also not forget Harris's scientifically unsupported comments here about race and IQ. This sort of misinformed rhetoric further empowers the sort of devastating white-on-black terror that has characterized much of US history. #ignominioushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FexD4g3JptU&t=1027s …

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      2. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 Mar 28
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg @QuilletteM

        I really think you should just agree to a podcast debate with Ezra. This idea that people would be bored with such a debate doesn't hold water imo. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the primary reason you've become so popular is bc of how much people enjoy hearing you debate.

        7 replies 0 retweets 73 likes
      3. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 Mar 28
        Replying to @Intrinsic29 @SamHarrisOrg @QuilletteM

        If anything, I'd try to cut back a bit on the friendly interview shtick. We already have Rubin if we want an interview that doesn't challenge anyone.

        1 reply 0 retweets 25 likes
      4. Aberu‏ @Aberu Mar 28
        Replying to @Intrinsic29 @SamHarrisOrg @QuilletteM

        Sam has consistently done "friendly interviews" like the Charles Murray one with people whom he agrees with, and is much more contentious, interrupting, willing to frame their argument uncharitably, and tone police them when they are in complete disagreement.

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      2. kyle‏ @notmyusername13 Mar 28
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg @QuilletteM

        You should stop smearing Ezra Klein and Vox Sam. They were completely reasonable. You think every single person that criticizes you is acting in bad faith.

        1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
      3. Drumpf‏ @teethingbaby07 Mar 28
        Replying to @notmyusername13 @SamHarrisOrg @QuilletteM

        Wrong. Ezra wasn't pursuaded by Sam's perfectly reasonable points. Haier's piece wasn't published on Vox. I think Pinker and other intellectuals that agree with Harris have a responsibility to come out!

        0 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
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