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Author of The End of Faith, The Moral Landscape, Waking Up, and other bestselling books published in over 20 languages. Host of the Waking Up podcast.

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    Sam Harris‏Verified account @SamHarrisOrg Jan 26

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      2. you know what really grinds my gears‏ @cant_find_dogs Jan 26
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg @plachine

        it's a pretty good summary of the new atheists that you think that what people believe is in a cracker is cause for serious worry

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      3. Kürt‏ @KurtMage Jan 26
        Replying to @cant_find_dogs @SamHarrisOrg @plachine

        The idea that baseless belief is problematic has been around for a while. I personally have not found a convincing argument to the contrary. An extreme example would be WK Clifford: “it is wrong, always, everywhere and for anyone to believe anything upon insufficient evidence."

        2 replies 0 retweets 16 likes
      4. you know what really grinds my gears‏ @cant_find_dogs Jan 26
        Replying to @KurtMage @SamHarrisOrg @plachine

        thank you for explaining that true is better than false

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      5. you know what really grinds my gears‏ @cant_find_dogs Jan 26
        Replying to @cant_find_dogs @KurtMage and

        btw neurodeterminism is just as unfalsifiable as the existence of God :)

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      6. Kürt‏ @KurtMage Jan 26
        Replying to @cant_find_dogs @SamHarrisOrg @plachine

        I'm not making a claim about falsifiability. This is irrelevant. I am making a claim about basis for belief (or, rather, describing a common claim that has been around for a while)

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      2. Meisha Turman‏ @s0crate5 Jan 27
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg @plachine

        That speaks to superstitions not Religion itself. Try to understand that religion's about shared sacred values and the stories (often full of these silly superstitions) are meant to convey these values to as many people as possible? Denouncing religion does nothing to improve it.

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      3. fertility wap  🇳🇬 🇺🇸‏ @smallkewlhuman Jan 27
        Replying to @s0crate5 @SamHarrisOrg @plachine

        denouncing religion opens the possibility of those same values (or better ones... I can name a couple abrahamic "values" that are disturbingly unproductive or just plain harmful) being shared without the distraction of unnecessary superstitions that divide & confuse. how could

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      4. fertility wap  🇳🇬 🇺🇸‏ @smallkewlhuman Jan 27
        Replying to @smallkewlhuman @s0crate5 and

        that be anything other than good? to insist that human beings need to believe in unsupported myths in order to learn valuable things, is to infantilize humanity and sorely underestimate our potential.

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      5. Meisha Turman‏ @s0crate5 Jan 27
        Replying to @smallkewlhuman @SamHarrisOrg @plachine

        I am all for highlighting and discussing ridiculous and/or pernicious qualities of the teachings of specific sects. It's the condemning religion as a whole that I have a problem with. We need to improve the way religion is practiced, not naively condemn religion itself.

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      6. fertility wap  🇳🇬 🇺🇸‏ @smallkewlhuman Jan 27
        Replying to @s0crate5 @SamHarrisOrg @plachine

        if you take the myths, unfounded beliefs, and outdated "values" (homosexuality being evil, women being inferior in any way, etc) out of religion, literally all you have left is values that can apply to any human being without requiring them to believe in anything superstitious.

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      7. Draugr Pasnak‏ @dougpasnak Feb 13
        Replying to @smallkewlhuman @s0crate5 and

        Exactly. "Giving you bad reasons to be good when good reasons exist" is how I believe Sam says it.

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      8. Meisha Turman‏ @s0crate5 Feb 14
        Replying to @dougpasnak @smallkewlhuman and

        And you think religion necessarily must, by nature, involve these "bad reasons" ? (That's superstition not Religion) It's better in my view to see religion as a human universal that is due criticism, rather than wholesale condemnation.

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      9. Draugr Pasnak‏ @dougpasnak Feb 14
        Replying to @s0crate5 @smallkewlhuman and

        Depends. Organised, formal religions as we know them have no choice, their own rhetoric binds them to those reasons. When atheists and humanists criticize the core tenets of religions, they mean the core tenets of "holy" writ. Many of which are still lauded as Truth.

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      2. Dominant Lobster‏ @DominantLobster Jan 26
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg @plachine

        Apparently symbolism is a hard concept to grasp for Sam.

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      3. K C‏ @Arrrrgo Jan 27
        Replying to @DominantLobster @SamHarrisOrg @plachine

        It's not symbolic, or are you arguing with every catholic priest and the pope? It's explicitly stated in the canon that it's not symbolic.

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      2. YUNG IN¢EL 🌹‏ @divintrial Jan 27
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        people will believe insane stuff without religion and defend those convictions vigorously. humans are the problem

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. fertility wap  🇳🇬 🇺🇸‏ @smallkewlhuman Jan 27
        Replying to @divintrial @SamHarrisOrg

        this is akin to saying "people will get sick even if they wash their hands. what's the point of preventative actions when the existence of microbes is ultimately the problem." religion is one engine that perpetuates harmful/irrational thinking. sam and likeminded people do not

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      4. fertility wap  🇳🇬 🇺🇸‏ @smallkewlhuman Jan 27
        Replying to @smallkewlhuman @divintrial @SamHarrisOrg

        insist that it's the ONLY such engine and in fact address many other ways that people tend to delude themselves outside of religious context. this doesn't make religion any less harmful for what it does or any less worthy of criticism.

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      5. YUNG IN¢EL 🌹‏ @divintrial Jan 29
        Replying to @smallkewlhuman

        I'm not sure when you first started listening to sam but in 2010 on YouTube all he did was bash religion. he created a generation of fedora neckbeards that only now are getting fixed with Steven Pinker and John Haidt

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      6. Matthew Thomas‏ @MThomastwt Jan 29
        Replying to @divintrial @smallkewlhuman

        The ideology of far left individuals carries with it many dogmatic problems. Purity testing, demanding belief without evidence and ostracizing "heretics" who fall out of group think. Dogma is the foundational issue. Religion had monopoly on that for a long time. I think one 1/2

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      7. Matthew Thomas‏ @MThomastwt Jan 29
        Replying to @MThomastwt @divintrial @smallkewlhuman

        2/2 issue is that moderate Christians don't see/don't call out the more radical believers. Sam calls out religion generally because the moderates are often helpless to recognize how scary the evangelicals are. Non-religious example is the media with Antifa. Failure of moderates.

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      8.  👌 Wokecoast Faithful‏ @fuzzyearlobes Jan 29
        Replying to @MThomastwt @divintrial @smallkewlhuman

        I honestly think the moderates are getting it from both ends; fundamentalists and atheists. There is a lot of hate towards people who are just trying to find some peace. Live and let live.

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      9. Matthew Thomas‏ @MThomastwt Jan 29
        Replying to @fuzzyearlobes @divintrial @smallkewlhuman

        I can definitely see that happening, although my caveat would be that I don't think Sam in particular wants anyone to hate theists. Sure, he'd like fewer believers, but his angle is just criticism. It's the people that want those kinds of changes legislated that scare me.

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