1/ OK, fine. So first question is, what matters? And why? Because we all gonna die in a massive solar flare in a few billion years, right?https://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg/status/951276346529009665 …
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2/ oh dear. So now we have the first sneaking in of something new to (1), conscious minds. And that changes things, big. Because evolution of range of free-will. Conscious choice. Biggies. Which you don't mention.
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3/ Death sucks too. Should we always prefer to avoid death rather than sacrificing ourselves to save others? Also, is something morally wrong only if it causes us individual pain? Like a hot-stove?https://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg/status/951276362387591169 …
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4/ = "We are all part of Nature, so let's make Nature suck a little less". Fine, OK. But it proves nothing so far. Also, should we exterminate smallpox, even if that causes smallpox pain? Or if it doesn't affect us personally? How about lions? Elephants?https://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg/status/951276367949238272 …
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Sam HarrisVerified account @SamHarrisOrg4/ Conscious minds are natural phenomena. Consequently, if we were to learn everything there is to know about physics, chemistry, biology, psychology, economics, etc., we would know everything there is to know about making our corner of the universe suck less.Show this thread2 replies 0 retweets 2 likesShow this thread -
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5/ = "If we *should* do anything, we should avoid doing X". Go back and see (3). Bring on a trolley case. Also, now we have a "should" introduced magically, which did not exist in (1). Go and see Hume.https://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg/status/951276372294553601 …
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6/ NO, REALLY? SRSLY? WE MIGHT GET SUBJECTIVE EXPERIENCES 'WRONG'? You don't say. So exactly how are we going to judge what is moral? Pain? Bring on the pain of a vaccination needle!https://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg/status/951276376837050374 …
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7/ "selfish and shortsighted".
You don't say. So back to my questions in (3) and onwards. Plus, "(By what measure of “better”? Fewer things suck.)", oh my, so is it OK for me to genocide a few million if my descendents have a better life? And so on.https://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg/status/951276380997681152 …Tim Skellett added,
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Either you don't understand "fewer" or "suck." Or you're not making a serious attempt to think this through.
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No. I am pointing out that you are not tackling the very real core issues, proceeding from very simple basics, and not getting anywhere where ethics complexity happens.
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