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Author of The End of Faith, The Moral Landscape, Waking Up, and other bestselling books published in over 20 languages. Host of the Waking Up podcast.

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    1. Sam Harris‏Verified account @SamHarrisOrg Jan 10

      Getting from “Is” to “Ought” 1/ Let’s assume that there are no ought’s or should’s in this universe. There is only what *is*—the totality of actual (and possible) facts.

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      Sam Harris‏Verified account @SamHarrisOrg Jan 10

      2/ Among the myriad things that exist are conscious minds, susceptible to a vast range of actual (and possible) experiences.

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        2. Sam Harris‏Verified account @SamHarrisOrg Jan 10

          3/ Unfortunately, many experiences suck. And they don’t just suck as a matter of cultural convention or personal bias—they really and truly suck. (If you doubt this, place your hand on a hot stove and report back.)

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        3. Sam Harris‏Verified account @SamHarrisOrg Jan 10

          4/ Conscious minds are natural phenomena. Consequently, if we were to learn everything there is to know about physics, chemistry, biology, psychology, economics, etc., we would know everything there is to know about making our corner of the universe suck less.

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        4. Sam Harris‏Verified account @SamHarrisOrg Jan 10

          5/ If we *should* to do anything in this life, we should avoid what really and truly sucks. (If you consider this question-begging, consult your stove, as above.)

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        5. Sam Harris‏Verified account @SamHarrisOrg Jan 10

          6/ Of course, we can be confused or mistaken about experience. Something can suck for a while, only to reveal new experiences which don’t suck at all. On these occasions we say, “At first that sucked, but it was worth it!”

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        6. Sam Harris‏Verified account @SamHarrisOrg Jan 10

          7/ We can also be selfish and shortsighted. Many solutions to our problems are zero-sum (my gain will be your loss). But *better* solutions aren’t. (By what measure of “better”? Fewer things suck.)

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        7. Sam Harris‏Verified account @SamHarrisOrg Jan 10

          8/ So what is morality? What *ought* sentient beings like ourselves do? Understand how the world works (facts), so that we can avoid what sucks (values).

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        2. Joe Norman‏ @normonics Jan 10
          Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

          how do you suppose a bag of naked facts begets experience? this is really the crux, and as far as I can tell you are taking a magical leap. it is not enough to say experience IS a fact, you must explain how 'facts' (which are non-experiential) *lead* to experience

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        3. Joe Norman‏ @normonics Jan 10
          Replying to @normonics @SamHarrisOrg

          from consciousness to 'ought' is not so difficult. from 'facts' to consciousness is.

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        4. Joe Norman‏ @normonics Jan 10
          Replying to @normonics @SamHarrisOrg

          moreover, if we are to consider 'ought' in the sense of the morality of action, it must be actions in relation to the experience of others, and it is unclear from your formulation why an experiential-node should have concern for experientially independent nodes.

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        2. Aesthesia‏ @Aesthesia9 Jan 10
          Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

          The problem in this 2nd premise, is it assumes the existence of minds, which are more than mere brains, right? So it takes for granted a kind of being (Dasein) that transcends the naturalistic, materialist worldview you are trying to defend

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        3. John Fullerton‏ @notrelluf Jan 10
          Replying to @Aesthesia9 @SamHarrisOrg

          No, no transcendence. Magic, maybe, if you like, but independent existence, no. More transcendence in the hive mind , and our common bond. That has an independent existence.

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        2. Julián Rodriguez  💚‏ @julianrod Jan 10
          Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

          Why do we focus on conscious minds? That is a bias. I favor that bias, but we should recognize it.

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        3. ben‏ @benchanceyy Jan 10
          Replying to @julianrod @SamHarrisOrg

          this is ridiculous. Only conscious minds experience suffering, as the feeling of pain exists only in the minds of those who are suffering. The bio-chemical reactions themselves aren’t problematic if there’s no conscious mind to experience the resulting experience.

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        4. Julián Rodriguez  💚‏ @julianrod Jan 10
          Replying to @benchanceyy @SamHarrisOrg

          I'm not saying we shouldn't favor this bias, just that it should be aknowledged.

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        5. Jacob Harney‏ @JacobHarney1 Jan 10
          Replying to @julianrod @SamHarrisOrg

          That 'bias' in favor of empathizing with the experience of suffering is Sam's whole point on morality. Morality only exists in the context of minds.

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        6. Julián Rodriguez  💚‏ @julianrod Jan 10
          Replying to @JacobHarney1 @SamHarrisOrg

          Fair enough.

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        1. The Magyar‏ @PNemeth72 Jan 10
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          You can't be susceptible to a possible experience. But it is possible to be susceptible to possible experiences.

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        1. Power Vertical‏ @REALPLTK Jan 10
          Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

          Sam. Try heroin. I feel bad that you might miss out on it.

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