Illuminating 3hrs, worth every second! Thank you both! This also led me to TED talk by @anilkseth which I cannot recommend highly enoughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyu7v7nWzfo …
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I was trying to work, you know
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Half work half listen, like me.
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The podcast was very interesting. I'll likely need to listen to it a 2nd time in order to fully digest it haha.
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Yea, this one requires lots of information processing lol
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3 hours!!! Yahhhhh!!!!!! Just finished
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Sam's really been cranking these out lately. I can't keep up!
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Great guest and ample timing to dig deep. Will need another listen to look up New words and correctly formulate new questions. A podcast that demands full attention. Almost felt high afterwards. Thanks guys , super!
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I watched Ex Machina two times in a row the first time I saw it. Anil, I love what you said about the Turning test: "As much as it's a test of the capabilities of the system...it's also a test of the human. What kind of criteria are they using to make that sort of judgment."
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FWIW there’s an episode of
#InfiniteMonkeyCage@BBCRadio4 w/ me and Bostrom, also of course@ProfBrianCox &@robinince - all about singularities and simulation argumentshttp://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08zb4d8 …Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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You might find Michael Graziano's arguments about conscious interesting:https://aeon.co/essays/can-we-make-consciousness-into-an-engineering-problem …
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I struggle to see how this solves the hard problem. What about qualia? Can I design a conscious machine that experiences “blue” as what I call “red”? How about an entirely new colour qualia?
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Can I redesign my brain so that all the qualia I associate with colours are replaced by entirely new colour qualia? How does that map onto any internal model? The qualia still comes from seemingly nowhere.
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I'm not sure I follow. "Red" and "blue" are just internal models. Your vision detects certain properties in the world and arbitrarily describes them as colors but those colors are just conceptual constructs, as is the model of what you "see."
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What defines the rule that translates an “internal model” into a qualia (ie. blueness)? Or do you just not think there is any qualia like Dennett does? That my mind just fools me into thinking I have qualia when I don’t?
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Here’s a better way: what are the rules for how my brain “describes” a particular thing, like a colour? Why is blue blue?
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No one knows how brains work perfectly but we do know that your eyes are just detecting properties in the world and you are imagining colors based on those properties. Eyes aren't windows to the world; they're more like data detectors.
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Sure, but the hard problem is how the data becomes a subjective experience. This theory seems to say essentially that your brain fools itself into thinking it has an internal dimension... fair enough, but from a first-person perspective, we have qualia, and...
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