As Camus said, Yes it’s worth living, if you can accept the absurdity.
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I wrote this before actually listening. Very enjoyable. Prof. Benatar philosophy is the opposite of a philosophical suicide. The title is misleading, it should be "Is Life Worth Creating?". That being said, I do think Sam did a great job.
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Continuing an existence already begun and coming into existence were two separate topics, though - I was thinking "Is Existence Better Than Nonexistence?"
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I get legitimately excited when I see there’s a new Sam Harris podcast available.pic.twitter.com/awMsmg4f9U
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Me too! It really makes my day. Thank you Sam
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Coming from a guy (me) who has actually gotten his leg cut off without anesthesia, I never once thought I'd rather be dead :)
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Post listening; At risk of oversimplifying: homeboy needs to get laid big time
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Hey Sam. When r u having
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Looking forward to this. Benatar's Better Never To Have Been is a wonderful antidote to all the nauseating pro natalism of the World's self righteous reproducers as well as the pseudo religious dewy eyed optimism of most of humanity as per Dawkins', "We are all going to die..."
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Sam, please have
@waitbutwhy on your podcast. His insights into human psychology/future combined with yours will make for an epic (yes) conversation.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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I don’t know why, but it never occurred to me that there were *other* Benatars.
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Benatar missed an opportunity to clarify his axiological asymmetry argument and correct the imbalance that
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His axiological asymmetry is valid because suffering is guaranteed to neurologically intact sentient beings, even if they just die immediately upon birth. But it's possible to live--rather for an instant or a century--without experiencing anything that we'd define as flourishing.
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Not sure if this is true. Suffering is as much a state of feeling as pain is and the two are not the same. U can have pain yet dont have to suffer from it. Suffering is neurological and not necessary for sentience and thus can be completely avoidable
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Your speaking about a capacity which is, as far as I've ever heard, is a skill that is only available to a highly trained mind (separating pain from suffering). And a skill which requires much suffering to acquire. No new born sentient being comes stick with that feature.
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*stock with that feature. You are stating a possibility about transcending suffering without placing that possibility in the context of its prerequisites. Sure it's possible, but how many people have ever achieved it and how difficult was it to achieve?
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