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Author of The End of Faith, The Moral Landscape, Waking Up, and other bestselling books published in over 20 languages. Host of the Waking Up podcast.

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    Sam Harris‏Verified account @SamHarrisOrg 17 Oct 2014

    Writer X spreads malicious lies about writer Y. Y accurately describes X as “a liar.” This is not an “ad hominem” argument.

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      2. Notung‏ @SIN_Notung 17 Oct 2014
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg Well, it is but it's not a fallacy ;)

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      3. Sam Harris‏Verified account @SamHarrisOrg 17 Oct 2014
        Replying to @SIN_Notung

        @SIN_Notung It's not an argument at all. It's an accurate description of a pattern of behavior.

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      4. Notung‏ @SIN_Notung 17 Oct 2014
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg Sure, I agree with you there.

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      1. Mandy‏ @mandylaspeak 17 Oct 2014
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg Jeez what a waste of talent having to defend such silly accusations. Keep up what you do! You're the best!

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      1. Sleeper‏ @SLE3PR 17 Oct 2014
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg Get 'em, Sam.

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      1. Saif Rahman‏ @SaifRRahman 17 Oct 2014
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg exactly - in law it's not defamation if it's true

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      1. Ben‏ @bigiddy 17 Oct 2014
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg it's frustrating when people are under the delusion that the issue of whether someone's a liar or not is a matter of opinion!

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      1. Richard Washington‏ @argumentumuk 23 Oct 2014
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg Yes it is. But it is not a logical fallacy in this case as it is used appropriately.

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      1. terry richard klumpp‏ @comictragic 18 Oct 2014
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg LET @SamHarrisOrg DECIDE (if he dares) which reply 'best' (that is; 'objectively') illustrates his, now, controversial, tweet?

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      1. Douglas Underhill‏ @robosnake 18 Oct 2014
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg or, if you like, "training wheels": ad hominem attacks a person. A rational argument attacks an irrational one.

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      1. Douglas Underhill‏ @robosnake 18 Oct 2014
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg another example: "You are an Islamophobe", compared to "What you said is an example of Islamophobia." Important difference

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      1. Douglas Underhill‏ @robosnake 18 Oct 2014
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg false. An example of that same thing, but not ad hominem, would be "What you said is a lie."

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      1. Simon‏ @bennett_im 18 Oct 2014
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg Logic 101. The accuser's post was actually closer to the fallacy's definition than the comment he/she criticized. Bit ironic?

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      1. Emery Rinse Repeat‏Verified account @emeryemeryii 18 Oct 2014
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        @SamHarrisOrg @peterboghossian an ad hominem would be to call writer X a fat ass rather than to prove him a plagiarist.

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      1. terry richard klumpp‏ @comictragic 17 Oct 2014
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg If X is 'a liar' then it is not an 'ad hominem' argument but a statement of fact. If X isn't a liar & Y knows this then; it is

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      1. x‏ @Loengaard 17 Oct 2014
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg @peterboghossian it is an inductive argument taking the form of a justified ad hominem.

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      1.  🇨🇦Mike Skywalker‏ @MCMikeSkywalker 17 Oct 2014
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        @SamHarrisOrg @Bretwinograd Im guessing you are "Y".

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      1. John Nicolay‏ @johnnicolay 17 Oct 2014
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg Yes it is. "That statement is a lie" wld not be ad hominem. "He is a liar" is, bc u r discrediting by ref 2 a characteristic

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      2. ValhallaBoy‏ @ValhallaBoy 17 Oct 2014
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg Aslan implies since you are a neuroscientist, you are unqualified to comment on religion. That's an ad hominem.

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      3. ann fields‏ @xtc_uk 17 Oct 2014
        Replying to @ValhallaBoy

        @ValhallaBoy @SamHarrisOrg sam uses his academic qualifications to endorse his extremeneocon politics and fundamentalist atheism

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      4. ValhallaBoy‏ @ValhallaBoy 20 Oct 2014
        Replying to @xtc_uk

        @xtc_uk @SamHarrisOrg fundamentalist atheism does not exist. Atheism is not an ideology, religion, or set of beliefs.

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      5. ann fields‏ @xtc_uk 20 Oct 2014
        Replying to @ValhallaBoy

        @ValhallaBoy @SamHarrisOrg of course atheism is an ideology. and set of beliefs thats the irony of it all.

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      6. ValhallaBoy‏ @ValhallaBoy 20 Oct 2014
        Replying to @xtc_uk

        @xtc_uk @SamHarrisOrg Atheists tend to have a common ideology. It's not what defines them as atheists. Atheists just don't believe in gods.

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      7. ann fields‏ @xtc_uk 20 Oct 2014
        Replying to @ValhallaBoy

        @ValhallaBoy @SamHarrisOrg maybe. sam conflates his claimed atheism with his political beliefs. so he muddies the discourse.

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      8. ValhallaBoy‏ @ValhallaBoy 20 Oct 2014
        Replying to @xtc_uk

        @xtc_uk @SamHarrisOrg Not much he can do about that. One can't just denounce their atheism. Maybe he can claim he is speaking as a humanist?

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      9. ann fields‏ @xtc_uk 20 Oct 2014
        Replying to @ValhallaBoy

        @ValhallaBoy @SamHarrisOrg sam has issues in that he fails to be holistic & objective with his opinions. his atheism is his politics.

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      10. End of conversation

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