When we reason, we are as free as a train upon its tracks. @paulbloomatyale
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@SamHarrisOrg@TorpedoWilson@paulbloomatyale So you could only have free will if you can think what you think before you think it? -
@robin_her@TorpedoWilson Yes, it sounds absurd. But the very notion of free will is incoherent. -
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@SamHarrisOrg@robin_her You have failed to observe how conscious interacts with lower brain IMO. -
@TorpedoWilson@robin_her Of course it interacts. But it is unconscious before it is conscious. And you don't control any of it. -
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@SamHarrisOrg@robin_her Agree control by conscious is slow & limited, but humans can be trained & train themselves to influence choices. - 1 more reply
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@SamHarrisOrg@paulbloomatyale 'I' chose the thought, but my consciousness became aware after the event. I am much more than consciousness. -
@TorpedoWilson@SamHarrisOrg@paulbloomatyale there seems to be a common assumption that will must be conscious in order to be "free" -
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@GAlexeyG@SamHarrisOrg@paulbloomatyale Or that only consciousness defines us. It's just a symbolic processor that sits on top. -
@TorpedoWilson@GAlexeyG@SamHarrisOrg@paulbloomatyale B causes C. I am C. Therefore, I am B. Affirming the concequent. -
@TorpedoWilson@GAlexeyG@SamHarrisOrg@paulbloomatyale 1st person I =/= 3rd person I. B =/= C
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