@SamHarrisOrg @craig_mcfarlane You're saying ~V -> ~C, ~C -> ~N, ergo N -> V. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent …
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Replying to @antheologian
@antheologian@craig_mcfarlane I'm really saying No Consciousness -> No Values.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @SamHarrisOrg
@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane "values depend on consciousness" is not the same as "consciousness causes values".1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @antheologian
@antheologian@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane "consciousness causes values" is not the same as "no consciousness -> no values"1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane but "values depends on consciousness" is equivalent to it. And that's my exact point.3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @antheologian
@antheologian@craig_mcfarlane There could be consciousness without values--if all conscious states were equivalent.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @SamHarrisOrg
@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane It's possible. However, that's a different argument than "values depend on consciousness".1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @antheologian
@antheologian@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane This is to not understand what values are. To be a value, something must value it.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @Ameriman1984
@Ameriman1984@antheologian@craig_mcfarlane No it's not. I'm not saying that C guarantees values. I'm saying values require C.3 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @SamHarrisOrg
@SamHarrisOrg@antheologian@craig_mcfarlane Or, you accidentally replied to me when you were trying to reply to@antheologian1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
@Ameriman1984 @antheologian @craig_mcfarlane Yes. My mistake.
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Replying to @SamHarrisOrg
@SamHarrisOrg@antheologian@craig_mcfarlane No worries.0 replies 0 retweets 0 likesThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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