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@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane You're saying ~V -> ~C, ~C -> ~N, ergo N -> V. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent … -
@antheologian@craig_mcfarlane I'm really saying No Consciousness -> No Values. -
@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane "values depend on consciousness" is not the same as "consciousness causes values". -
@antheologian@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane "consciousness causes values" is not the same as "no consciousness -> no values" -
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@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane but "values depends on consciousness" is equivalent to it. And that's my exact point. -
@antheologian@craig_mcfarlane There could be consciousness without values--if all conscious states were equivalent. -
@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane It's possible. However, that's a different argument than "values depend on consciousness". -
@antheologian@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane This is to not understand what values are. To be a value, something must value it. - 7 more replies
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@SamHarrisOrg That's one interpretation, I guess. Not especially scientific, though.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane Or, by analogy: All life depends on water. Water -> Life (W->L). Wrong. No water -> no life (~W->~L).Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane Values may also depend on Fairies. Having Consciousness does not entail the existence of Fairies.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@craig_mcfarlane@SamHarrisOrg It'd really suck if a published spent all that money to print your book with such a glaring fallacy.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane I.E. You're relying on a poor translation into symbolic logic of your written argument.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane If you're saying A depends on B, then it's not B -> A but ~B -> ~A. Insufficient info to prove B -> A.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@SamHarrisOrg But, seriously, have your publisher send me a review copy and I'll give it a fair read.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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