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@craig_mcfarlane All Values depend on Consciousness; All C depends on Natural Law; All Values depend on Natural Law... undistributed?
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@SamHarrisOrg You're right: it's question begging or circular reasoning. x -> A, A -> y therefore y -> x. Still two words, though. -
@craig_mcfarlane You appear to be confused. -
@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane You're saying ~V -> ~C, ~C -> ~N, ergo N -> V. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent … -
@antheologian@craig_mcfarlane I'm really saying No Consciousness -> No Values. -
@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane "values depend on consciousness" is not the same as "consciousness causes values". -
@antheologian@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane "consciousness causes values" is not the same as "no consciousness -> no values" -
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@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane but "values depends on consciousness" is equivalent to it. And that's my exact point. -
@antheologian@craig_mcfarlane There could be consciousness without values--if all conscious states were equivalent. - 9 more replies
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@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane I teach critical thinking and intro logic if you'd like to sit in a semester or two.#perhapsLearnSomethingThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane Or, by analogy: All life depends on water. Water -> Life (W->L). Wrong. No water -> no life (~W->~L). -
@impleri You're locked. Can he even see you? -
@craig_mcfarlane Nope. I forget that I'm locked. -
@impleri But at least that lets me fix the wrong link before he sees it and tries to use it a proof of my wrongness.
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@SamHarrisOrg@craig_mcfarlane Values may also depend on Fairies. Having Consciousness does not entail the existence of Fairies.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@SamHarrisOrg You're saying ~V -> ~C, ~C -> ~N, ergo N -> V. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denying_the_antecedent …Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@SamHarrisOrg Point is, even if your conclusion is correct, the argument is not.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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