@peterjukes The only salient difference between the groups is religious -- calling the divide "political" just confuses matters.
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@SamHarrisOrg@danabrahmsen Well that I can't disagree with. Religion and the power of crowds. But atheist versions possible and pernicious -
@peterjukes@danabrahmsen No mob was ever driven by an overweening desire for evidence and a disgust for confirmation bias. That's "atheism" -
@SamHarrisOrg@danabrahmsen I'm an atheist. But that doesn't exempt me. Scientific socialism, Nazi eugenics. Self proclaimed atheists too -
@peterjukes@danabrahmsen No one did those things *because* of their disbelief in God. (And most Nazis weren't atheists). -
@SamHarrisOrg@danabrahmsen Robespierre, Hitler Stalin and Mao made Progress sacrificial altar. Disbelief in God does not guarantee humanism -
@peterjukes nobody is claiming it does, what we're saying is that disbelief in god was not causal to their actions.@SamHarrisOrg -
@danabrahmsen@SamHarrisOrg You concede biggest 20C wars not motivated by God. Chinese civil wars and Mongol invasion also Not God -
@peterjukes Never claimed all wars started by religion, joined this by clarifying that ideology would cover more than religion@SamHarrisOrg
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