@SamHarrisOrg Justify the premise of your question. Why should there be a trade off between liberty and security?
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.@libertarian_adi Generally speaking, there is an obvious tension between liberty/privacy and security.
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@SamHarrisOrg i would begin by sacrificing the freedom to maintan military occupations in various middle eastern countries. -
@OkCoolThanks Which countries were we occupying on September 10, 2001? -
@SamHarrisOrg@OkCoolThanks The taliban likely loved the US arming/funding both sides of their conflict with the USSR hoping for more death.
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"To secure Freedom, Govt must crush your Freedom." I believe Jefferson said that...or maybe it was Kim Ill-Sung.
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@LeftyBollocks Really. Tracking metadata puts us on the path to becoming North Korea? -
@SamHarrisOrg@LeftyBollocks Tracking the metadata of everyone regardless of suspicion of actual criminality certainly does.
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@SamHarrisOrg Fear-monger much? 50% chance? -
@TaoOfChadC Read G. Allison. -
@SamHarrisOrg from crockpot bombs to mininukes? Get a hold of yourself: read J.Mueller on G.Allison: http://politicalscience.osu.edu/faculty/jmueller//apsachgo.pdf …@TaoOfChadC
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@SamHarrisOrg The risk of nuclear terrorism is not know and can be diminished by foreign policies. You cannot justify PRISM with this arg -
@DevaKila Most risks are not "known," they are estimated by people who study all the relevant variables. -
@SamHarrisOrg You are right but IMHO the estimative is not reliable in this case and why net espionage has anything to to with it ?
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@SamHarrisOrg@Ian_Murphy If my bedroom were full of naked clowns firing crossbows, would I eat all the marmalade? Makes just as much sense -
@danryan87 You're denying that there is a trade off between certain forms of security and certain forms of privacy/freedom? -
@SamHarrisOrg Sacrificing privacy doesn't necessarily equal better security. All our weaknesses lie in the human element, not in the dragnet -
@SamHarrisOrg To your q- a tradeoff exists. But we don't need the nuclear example: the Tsarnaevs were on a watchlist. Human element failed.
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@SamHarrisOrg Can't wait for smoking guns in the form of mushroom clouds, eh? -
@jcape That was the problem with electing a stupid President. Even when he was right, he made the truth sound risible. -
@SamHarrisOrg Waging an aggressive war is never "right." It's one of the definitional crimes against humanity. -
@jcape@SamHarrisOrg those who directed the landing in Normandy would beg to differ -
@millertime32@SamHarrisOrg 1. [citation needed] 2. Their opinion < Nuremberg jurists' opinion. -
@jcape@SamHarrisOrg you don't need a citation. They showed it by their actions.#WWII#KoreanWar etc... -
@millertime32@SamHarrisOrg "Waging aggressive war" has a specific legal definition. The U.S. was not the aggressor in either WW2 or Korea. - 6 more replies
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