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Author of The End of Faith, The Moral Landscape, Waking Up, and other bestselling books published in over 20 languages. Host of the Waking Up podcast.

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    Sam Harris‏Verified account @SamHarrisOrg 27 Apr 2013

    The "apples and oranges" objection is a fallacy. It is perfectly valid to compare the relative risks of different behaviors.

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      2. Timothy Panngam  ⚙️‏ @Timothy_Panngam 27 Apr 2013
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg Is the "moral landscape" blind to intent and content only with considering the actuarial statistics?

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      3. Sam Harris‏Verified account @SamHarrisOrg 27 Apr 2013
        Replying to @Timothy_Panngam

        @Timothy_C_Lee The intent of objects or people? People's intentions are definitely part of the moral landscape.

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      4. Timothy Panngam  ⚙️‏ @Timothy_Panngam 27 Apr 2013
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg in other words, you can use a lion as a watch dog or comb your hair with a stick of dynamite. Design matters

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      5. Sam Harris‏Verified account @SamHarrisOrg 27 Apr 2013
        Replying to @Timothy_Panngam

        @Timothy_C_Lee Design matters insofar as it imposes actual danger. The intentions of the designer alone don't matter (much).

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      6. Timothy Panngam  ⚙️‏ @Timothy_Panngam 27 Apr 2013
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg I agree Sam, but we cannot pretend intent doesn't normally influence both design and consequence

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      7. Sam Harris‏Verified account @SamHarrisOrg 27 Apr 2013
        Replying to @Timothy_Panngam

        @Timothy_C_Lee Unfortunately, the link is not direct. We will probably have safe guns (e.g. "super tasers") before we have safe cars.

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      8. Timothy Panngam  ⚙️‏ @Timothy_Panngam 27 Apr 2013
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg Point taken, but I can't imagine a heavily armed society landing on a peak of the moral landscape, can you?

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      9. Sam Harris‏Verified account @SamHarrisOrg 27 Apr 2013
        Replying to @Timothy_Panngam

        @Timothy_C_Lee I agree. If we were on a peak on the moral landscape, this conversation would be almost unintelligible.

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      2. Michaela Carpaccio‏ @MSCarpaccio 27 Apr 2013
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg The title of the article is dangerously misleading. Also, in terms of time to intervene, guns are clearly more lethal.

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      3. Sam Harris‏Verified account @SamHarrisOrg 27 Apr 2013
        Replying to @MSCarpaccio

        @MSCarpaccio The data include successful interventions. Death = lack of success.

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      2. BelieveTheTruth‏ @Sam_BTT 27 Apr 2013
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg Absolutely. But apples do not justify oranges.

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      3. Sam Harris‏Verified account @SamHarrisOrg 27 Apr 2013
        Replying to @Sam_BTT

        @Sam_BTT True. But if I was outraged by dangerous apples and sanguine about even more dangerous oranges, you might wonder about me.

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      4. BelieveTheTruth‏ @Sam_BTT 27 Apr 2013
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg I'd certainly unsubscribe! I love your work but I disagree with you on guns. Clearly both apples and oranges are a concern.

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      5. BelieveTheTruth‏ @Sam_BTT 29 Apr 2013
        Replying to @Sam_BTT

        @SamHarrisOrg You can be a responsible gun owner. But there's no way of being sure enough that evades the possibility of tragedy #BanAllGuns

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      2. WolfeKeeper‏ @WolfeKeeper 27 Apr 2013
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg For better or worse, people judge self-administered risks far less important than externally imposed ones; driving vs alar

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      3. Sam Harris‏Verified account @SamHarrisOrg 27 Apr 2013
        Replying to @WolfeKeeper

        @WolfeKeeper both of these are "self-administered" for adults and "imposed" on children. You don't have own either.

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      4. WolfeKeeper‏ @WolfeKeeper 27 Apr 2013
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg People simply don't do apples-apples risk assessments;terrorism is a negligible risk compared to driving or guns apples-apples

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      1. Dombyk, Elite‏ @altug_g 28 Apr 2013
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        “@SamHarrisOrg: The "apples and oranges" objection is a fallacy. It is perfectly valid to compare the relative risks of different behaviors”

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      1. Yan Pronin‏ @theQuadMeister 28 Apr 2013
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg Swimming pools help kids learn a necessary skill. In 2013, this can hardly be said about guns.

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      1. Kal‏ @kalsolarUK 27 Apr 2013
        Replying to @SamHarrisOrg

        @SamHarrisOrg indeed. I have always said that apples and oranges make a perfect pear.

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