Due process is a fundamental liberal value reflected in law; not the other way around. This is on-campus moral panic finally utterly manifested in the highest level of our officialdom. How is panic wrong in the former. and not the latter?
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Where's the lack of due process, except for this fig-leaf investigation and a biased committee? You're the one calling it a panic. Premise rejected.
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Serious questions. What elements of process do you think he received? What values does due process reflect? You don't get to reject a premise before understanding what it is in the first place.
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He got an adversarial x-exam for his accuser, more than you can say for her. He has the guy responsible for guiding his nomination (McGahn) limiting FBI inquiry. Neither are getting due process, but he is being coddled.
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RE: DP. What about timely notice. What's the value behind it. The focus's on the liberal values of DP, not necessarily its legal technicalities. RE: Panic. I refer you to Sam's own podcast about it. Keep in mind Swetnick (or do we believe her unconditionally as well.)
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Should Sam also keep in mind Sam's podcast about moral panic? Maybe you don't see the problem with your logic?
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"If you are innocent, you want the FBI to talk to everyone". You are very wrong here. I wouldn't want the FBI talking to ANYONE unless my life was already screwed and that was the least bad option. You may have other things to hide, you may love your privacy, or not trust the FBI
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Agreed, Sam is wrong here. Also, if GOP loses senate next month, a deeper investigation that runs past year end will doom the confirmation. That alone is sufficient reason for Kavanaugh/GOP not to want it and for Ford/Democrats to want it, regardless of any other consideration.
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If Ford had wanted to sink Kav nomination in some partisan way, this is not the way she would have approached it. Tell people 6 years ago about it, but wait until last minute to try to derail?
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regardless of the reason, she doesn't want him on the court. the best way to keep him off the court is to insert delays that push this thru year end. she knows this, her lawyers know this, which is why they've pushed for delays at every opportunity (and why GOP has fought them).
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Sam was wrong in his inference. Kavanaugh/GOP have every reason to oppose deeper FBI investigation, even if allegation is false (goal is to get on the court!). Likewise, Ford/Democrats have every reason to support deeper FBI investigation, even if allegation is false.
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To make inferences about who is telling truth based on who wants deeper FBI investigation misses the massive incentive that each party ALREADY has to support/oppose such an investigation, even if wrong/right on the truth. It's about whether Kavanaugh gets the seat--nothing else.
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Trying to get Kavanaugh to ask for an FBI investigation was a cheap ploy to make him look as if he had something to hide. Even if one was expecting to be totally exonerated, only a fool would request one. “Yes Senators, please throw me in the river to see if I float or drown.“
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the meditation app is so fucking awesome
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Sad to say I sensed a biased rationalization in your preamble. If a person can die for an ideology, he or she can certainly lie. Also your attempt to avoid talking about Democratic political games surroinding the Kavanaugh nomi ation was disappointing. HST still a big fan of you.
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Sam, if it turns out Ford’s credibility is impeached, a process that is now underway, it’s still fine to believe Kavanaugh is unfit for the job, but you’ll have to reckon with your own bias that caused you to lend her such strong credence.
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It boggles the mind how you have interviewed so many people that confirm the PC backlash put Trump in office and you cannot see the Democrats are now upping the ante and calling all those who doubt Ford, Rapists, Rape enables and Rape Apologists.
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Though I’m not a Trump fan we all have our cults. This can be an intense echo chamber. That tribal myopia has been the focus of the last 2 years
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