I don't think they are overlooking it
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Do you think EA is overlooking the impact China may have on catastrophic risks? Or any general thoughts on EA and China?
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EAs are extremely thoughtful people. They're more like Chidi in The Good Place than almost anyone else you'll meet. Not necessarily all of them, but when people speak about the community this way, I think they are attacking a strawman.
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How do EAs avoid the trap of thinking “anything I do to make more money is justified because I’m going to allocate it to better ends than it would’ve otherwise gone to” ?
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Unclear. Fulfillment vs. enjoyment trade-off.
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how much better off are you, with respect to your own well-being, for having committed your fortune to OpenPhil rather than buying yachts and super cars or other vanity projects.
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This is one of the larger confusions (imo anyway) that I see in the EA discourse. I strongly believe people get utility from justice and fairness. A *lot* of utility. Even when they are not directly impacted.
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some people who call themselves consequentialists care about other outcomes, like justice or fairness
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This is an empirical question not a philosophical one - what is the ROI of dollars applied this way vs. the other cause areas?
The big question you first have to answer is how you would do it.
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As a provocation, why not put all EA money into increasing GDP in poorer countries? It's linked to better outcomes for people on almost all domains, feels it would be a huge benefit.
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Don't really know, but I tend to think EA deserves more *counterfactual* credit than is typically granted implicitly to these other groups.
Main limiting factor to more impact is committed dollars imo.
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- how do you think the effectiveness is going, as compared to (a) other high impact groups (eg yc, paypal mafia/thiel fellowship, (?) parc, and how well it could be?
- what are the main limiting factors to positive impact?
- what is the primary epistemic cultural bug?
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I think it's less of a problem than I expected it to be. Normies seem considerably more bothered by perceived (and imo unintended/projected) judgements about their actions/non-actions.
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Do you perceive tension between "billionaires subscribe to concept, which popularizes it" and "normies assume billionaires only pursue self-interest, which makes the concept suspect"? Or alternatively do you not care much about its popularity among non-HNWs?
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Only if ending them is also the way to do the most good on the margin.
I think that would be true of malaria with e.g. a great vaccine or gene drive.
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Have you ever funded a cause that a major donor could end? Like obstetric fistula where all women with the injury in the works could be treated for $150M
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It's neglected, leveraged, and tractable.
I did not suggest the cause area tbc, the EA community did.
(I'm not even a vegetarian 🙊 ... yet)
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Dustin, thank you for your leadership and support for reducing the suffering of animals. Your philanthropy has propelled transformational changes that will improve the lives of billions of animals over time. My question is, what inspired you to take this on as an issue?
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I hope so!
I've got my eyes on , and . EA ice bucket challenge, you've been tagged!
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Do you think you could convince a billionaire to give most of their money to EA? If so who?
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