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honest question here -- is the answer 'make it so that you can pay $0.01 to guarantee that your email makes it and isn't considered spam'? Would that solve the 'spam vs self-hosted server' problem?

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Carlos Fenollosa

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Sep 4

After self-hosting my email for twenty-three years I have thrown in the towel

Email is now an oligopoly, a service gatekept by a few big companies which does not follow the principles of net neutrality.

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I don't think so - people sill send spam NFTs on Solana and that costs $0.12 to make and send the NFT If the victim or the scam is high enough value, and the success rate is acceptable, the economically efficient amount of $$ to spend on a spam might be hundreds of dollars

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we'd probably also need some scam weeding out, just less strong versions. as a sanity check -- if you wanted to send spam to everyone in the US, that'd be $3m. Ok, so prob $0.10, not $0.01--that would make it cost $30m to spam the country once.

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And yet i see the postman filling the letterboxes with so much trash every day. Wonder how much that costs

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If we all got the number of pieces of email spam that we get physical mail spam, that'd be a simple problem for us to handle without filters. (And pre-sorted bulk mail is ~$0.40 to mail, plus printing costs etc)

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That is dorcom-er thinking. There is actually no way to just "reach out" to all these people without really engaging them.

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Cost me average of $0.025 cents to reach nearly 100k legitimately acquired user emails across clients (per user per month) so they better be paying more than $0.01!

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One of the elegant designs of a system with elastic supply and dynamic pricing is that the most valuable market participants tend to occupy the system. High transaction fees crowd out spam.

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And use cases! It’s a double edged tool

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I personally find it much more disturbing how good phishing mails have become. Spam is actually quite well under control, just annoying. Phising, on the other hand, is used in 90% of all "hacks" nowadays to gain access, at least on a low-level.

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Even if you send it, more than 80% will not see it

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