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2) Let's say that Voyager has, remaining, 75% of assets (I don't know the exact number). It seems like the first thing that should happen is that customers get back the 75%, and then later get back the rest if anything is recovered from 3AC. But that hasn't happened yet. Why?

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3) Well, the *traditional* process is that before customers get their assets back, they get fucked. First, there's a long, drawn out process, during which funds are frozen. It can take years. Remember Mt. Gox? That process is *still going on*.

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4) Meanwhile, that entire time, various bankruptcy agents are slowly bleeding the customer's frozen assets dry with consulting fees. This can cost customers hundreds of millions of dollars by the time all is said and done. And, finally, there's an imbedded option.

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5) See, if a customers had 1 BTC on the platform, and BTC was worth $30k... and then it takes years to go through bankruptcy... what do they get back? 1 BTC, or $30k? Probably, whichever is worth less. So the longer the process drags out, the more optionality customers lose.

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6) So, what's going on with Voyager? Well, lots of parties were trying to bid $0.10 on the dollar for the assets. If a customer had $100 on the platform, a third party would pay $10 for it, get whatever funds remained (maybe $75), and then the customer... gets back $10.

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7) And meanwhile, Voyager's consultants would be slowly draining the remaining funds by charging fees every month the bankruptcy process dragged on. This didn't seem right to us. Customers already lost assets; we didn't want them to lose more.

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8) So we submitted an offer: If accepted, any customer who wanted could come and get back their share of everything that remained, as soon as possible. So the customer above would get back $75 immediately, *and* retain their claim in case more was recovered from 3AC.

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9) It would let customers--if they chose--get the remaining assets back right away, with no fees or additional haircut.

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10) So, who's against our offer? Well, it was voluntary--customers wouldn't have to use it! But there are parties that *would* lose from it: third parties who want to take some of the customer assets as fees.

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11) The consultants, for instance, likely want the bankruptcy process to drag out as long as possible maximizing their fees. Our offer would let people claim assets quickly. Or people who wanted to submit a lower bid--taking a large share of customer assets in the middle.

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12) As a disclaimer, I also have a stake in this process, but I'm pretty sure our offer hurts the stake; there's a chance equity in Voyager would be worth more (at the cost of customers) if the process drags out. But equity holders aren't who matter right now; customers are.

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13) Anyway: in the end, we think Voyager's customers should have the right to quickly claim their remaining assets if they want, without rent seeking in the middle. They've been through enough already.

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14 p.s. to clarify: our offer would give Voyager customers back 100% of the remaining assets that Voyager has, including claims on anything recovered in the future.

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15) ...and the "please give us some excuse to charge more fees on the estate" parade begins: twitter.com/FatManTerra/st Anyway we've made our offer, hopefully customers are allowed to choose it if they want. If not guess it's up to the consultants to ensure prompt liquidity...

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You have all heard the terms "hero," "bailout," "rescue," and "help" in reference to FTX saving distressed companies. Voyager, one of the aforementioned companies, disagrees - they think that SBF's deal is extremely predatory and will actually hurt customers even more. twitter.com/kadhim/status/…

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Without equity investors publicly traded companies wouldn’t exist and wouldn’t have funds to operate. Investors take as much risk as customers to benefit an org. Saying they don’t matter is low, most investors are not rich billionaires, just MC working folks who lost just as bad.

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Celsius should also not spend too much time on bankruptcy process as well

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Sam has nothing to do with that. Steve is the one that filed motion with judge to declare all stocks worthless. Doesnt anyone read the motions? Steve also filed to reactivate debit cards...but only for those he chooses, without revealing whom. Still trust this guy?

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Many of the customers are equity holders. All matter right now! We hold #vgx #vygvf & assets on the

app. We helped grow the platform. The equity holders were the little guys who wanted to own a piece the digital future & it was ruined. Needs to be made right!

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Púdrete hdp!

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