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5) Their "transaction revenue" (trading fees etc.) was $1.9B. Their "subscription revenue" (custody, staking, etc.) was $0.1B. Their subscriptions grew quickly! But that's still just 5% of revenue. 95% is trading fees.
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6) To be fair, I've been guilty of this too. I'll talk about growth metrics in FTX's margin borrow/lending book, but the truth is that, for FTX--like Coinbase, and like most crypto exchanges--most of the revenue comes from trading fees.
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7) Another interesting thing to note here: retail vs institutional. In Q2, Coinbase made $1.8B on retail fees, and $0.1B on institutional fees. So 90% of their revenue is from retail trading fees, 5% instos, and 5% custody/staking.
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8) Again, reports will talk a lot about the institutional clients Coinbase is winning, and that really is important to the future of their business! But I think they often miss the numbers here. When it comes to retail, Coinbase blows everyone else out of the water.
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9) In fact! In 2021Q2, Coinbase made $100m revenue on institutional trading fees. FTX made... $100m. I'm actually not sure which made more on institutional trading fees; they're within a few % of each other. But on retail, Coinbase is massively bigger than FTX.
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11) Coinbase had $1.3B of expenses in 2021Q2 alone. Removing one-time costs (e.g. listing), its revenue was $2B and its EBITDA was $1B. So they had about $1B of expenses in 2021Q2, for a run rate of $4B/year.
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12) This is roughly evenly distributed between --"transaction expenses" (gas?) --Tech --Marketing --Payroll They spent roughly $250m on each. They had ~2k employees, so that implies ~$400k/year/employee, which makes sense given the workforce.
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13) For context, FTX's expenses in 2021Q2 were around $50m (excluding buy/burn). The big differences were.... I guess everywhere? I guess 5% of the expenses aren't surprising given we also have 5% of the employee headcount.
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14) One of the biggest questions I've been thinking about recently: Big companies tend to have big teams. Is that necessary? Is that correct? What happens if you try to build a big company with a medium sized team? Is it efficient and nimble, or is it just overloaded?
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An amazing review as always. Genuine question. I wonder why you think that Q3 will be lower as we are picking up the momentum to finish the year strong and have bigger run than Q2. Wouldn't that bring more volume in transactions and in general to them?
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Inicators show that volume will be much higher Q3. We had the crash mid May. Total market cap was lower than it is now. Many got Rekt. Exchanges don't want people to get Rekt, even though they profit on leverage, if it hurts too much, they won't come back. The numbers seem right.
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