1) Do you feel bullish?
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2) Another thread about crypto companies going public; see:
IPOs: twitter.com/SBF_Alameda/st
BAKKT: twitter.com/SBF_Alameda/st
Coinbase: twitter.com/SBF_Alameda/st; and later
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3) Alright, so what's going on with Bullish?
Well really it's two different companies combined into one.
It's an exchange, and it's a pile of crypto.
About $6B of crypto and USD:
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5) Well, they have a website, and a Twitter, but neither of those are going to help much:
bullish.com
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9) Right now, ftx.com/trade/BTC-PERP has roughly 900 BTC offered within 1%, or about $30m.
So while the Bullish treasury will help with liquidity, it won't be enough to make it top tier.
How much will that providing cost in IL?
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10) They're assuming 75% annualized BTC volatility, which isn't crazy.
If BTC goes up 75% this year, ignoring fees/spreads:
Without providing: $1B USD, $1.75B BTC = $2.75B
With providing/IL: $1.32 USD, $1.32B BTC = $2.64B
So it's paying ~$100m/year to get 20% of FTX's depth
12) Which is just a way of saying that, usually, exchanges don't scale up liquidity by just putting out never-moving scales with their internal capital.
Ok, so what's up with Bullish's "illustrative" P&L?
(from sec.report/Document/00011)
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Actually this is not true. On low fee chains, for pairs where the market has a good idea of price (e.g. btc/usd), IL will largely be compensated for by fees. Let's assume fees=0.3% and they get arb'd if btc-usd goes out of line by 0.35%. 1/n
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This means that they're recovering 6/7th of the arbitrage value in fees, so IL is only 1/7th what you say that is. That also doesn't acknowledge the fees from uninformed retail flow. So in the above scenario, they'd lose more like 15m$ to IL, which is not a lot on 6bn capital.


