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2) ok so we're currently trying to pay a company money like, we want to use their service. they charge for it, and we're happy to pay.
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4) So, again, we were like "hey can we pay you money now, we want to use your product". "No", they replied. "It's time for a second phone call." Another employee gets on this time, and..... walks us through the same demo.
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5) So, ok, we tried again to pay them money. "Hah!" they replied. "As if." So, time for our _third_ phone call demo.
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6) Anyway, some businesses seemed designed to do, you know, business and stuff. Others seemed designed to ward off any potential value creation, for themselves or their partners. Anyway we'll see if Call Number 3 successfully gets lets us pay them money for their product!
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