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27) Biden: "You can't fix the economy until you fix the COVID crisis" My guess is that doesn't go over well. Generally I'd guess Biden does better here when he blames it on Trump fucking up easy things (refusing to give out masks) than it being hopeless until after COVID.

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28) Trump claims he paid millions of taxes in 2016-2017. Is this income tax vs other taxes? Is he lying? Are the published numbers wrong?

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29) "We've done things you've never even thought of" If I were Biden I'd respond with something like: "Yeah, like constant lying and running a country without a plan. I haven't ever thought to do those."

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30) "You're the worst president America has ever had, come on" Wonder how that went over, probably well?

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31) Why bother pandering to the state the debate is in? It appeals to 100 people in the audience. To the millions watching it's just startling us to remember they're physically somewhere instead of just being natively digital or something.

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32) Jeez is there like a red card or something here?

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33) Biden nailed that one about families

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34) "I think the country would be better served..." TBH Wallace is the best debater here.

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35) ok, c'mon, really no need to put "possible" in there. Don't think you get any points for a taking a jab at Abraham Lincoln.

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36) Really word-salad start to Biden's answer there. just listing social justice related terms.

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37) Biden finding his stride halfway through this question, way stronger at the beginning than the end

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38) Really interesting to see Trump's approach here -- he's taking the left-wing one if anything, not the right-wing one. (Not that that reflects what he has thought or said or done.) FWIW I think Trump's approach here might be effective.

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39) Actually pretty seamless transition there by Trump--went from saying X to saying not X halfway through that answer and it basically worked.

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40) oh boy that meeting sounds like it would be a disaster

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41) Really strong start to that answer -- "being asked to do things that were insane" I think that moving to call it "radical" is not a good call though--his winning move is to say "these trainings are just shitty, c'mon, everyone knows that" and sidestep larger questions.

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42) I think Trump's taking the right approach here--ignore Wallace's note that crime increases were the same in R and D cities, and just point out the large D examples. The truth might in some sense be similar to that, but much worse to say.

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43) Biden doing a pretty good job so far on this question, really tricky one but he's done a good job on it.

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44) really curious what Biden's going to say about protests here

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45) Biden handling this really well. I think Trump made a mistake by interrupting there: Wallce was trying to nail Biden down on whether to send in the national guard, and Trump got Biden off the hook by talking over them.

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46) Biden really starting from a place of weakness in this debate -- he's way less commanding than Trump. Trump blowing that advantage by not being tactical. He's interrupting constantly, *even when he's shouting over things that would have been good for him*.

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47) Wondering what people will think about Trump using the number of SC justices he nominated as a positive reflection on him. It doesn't make sense, but sounds good.

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48) "No, I'm not asking, sir, that was a rhetorical question" I can't imagine Trump's doing himself favors there.

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49) Biden really powerful there. Uncertain about Trump--is it a really effective retort, or really disgusting? I could see it being either, guess it really depends on what you think the truth is?

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50) Wallace: "I'd like to talk about climate change" Biden: "So would I" Trump: [stares sternly]

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51) Trump is probably right on forest fires there, gonna do him wonders with the firefighters

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52) Wonder what people think about the forest city speech here, kind of a cool interlude

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53) Trump had a pretty good answer on climate change--point out things that are in fact much less helpful than normally claimed

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54) "He doesn't know how to do that" it was a winner the first time, it's a winner the second time, it'll probably be a winner the third time. (On Trump not interrupting)

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55) jeez Trump feels like a bully on the "green new deal"

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56) "election integrity" ooooh boy this one's gonna be good

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57) good line about Trump voting by mail, really makes it more awkward for Trump to be strongly against it. If I were Trump I might actually fly down to Florida to vote, I think the publicity stunt would be worth it.

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58) Don't think Biden's line about "it won't happen" is good -- Trump is about to weaponize it to display symmetry

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59) WHAT THE FUCK did Trump just accuse HRC of attempting to do a coup? Yes. Yes he did.

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60) I think Biden's taking the right approach here -- just playing nice on the election, it's what presents the contrast with Trump

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61) Thank you Case Western Reserve University, without you we could never have had the privileged of watching this.

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62) Commentators after: The real question is whether you can have more of these debates.

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63) twitter.com/SheriffReese/s yeah these things can't be good for Trump, he should really memorize a few things that are *true* to recite

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In tonight’s presidential debate the President said the “Portland Sheriff” supports him. As the Multnomah County Sheriff I have never supported Donald Trump and will never support him.

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64) I can't watch Biden for more than 5 minutes without thinking about theatlantic.com/magazine/archi

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65) JEEZ Donald Jr. is a better debater than Trump or Biden.

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66) "Stand by" (on e.g. proud boys) -- was it: a) misspeak b) not thinking c) dog whistle

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67) Alright guys that's a wrap IDK how to summarize this debate -- I bet different people have really different takes on it.

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