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    1. AbuCarmel/GangstaYid‏ @AbuKedem Apr 29

      AbuCarmel/GangstaYid Retweeted 5'7'' Black Male

      If that were true, voluntary permanent celibacy wouldn't be considered such an impressive feat. "Undue"? No. The world does not owe you sex. You have to earn it interpersonally. But not having sex SUCKS and is not good 4 body/psyche (unless one happens 2 b Asexual. Most r nothttps://twitter.com/absurdistwords/status/990553773390139392 …

      AbuCarmel/GangstaYid added,

      5'7'' Black Male @absurdistwords
      Most human sex has nothing to do with reproduction. Lack of sex causes no pain or undue distress. The social pressure to have it however, does. https://twitter.com/DoubleWSingleV/status/990506056622264321 …
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    2. Ruth Abrams‏ @RuthieAA Apr 29
      Replying to @AbuKedem

      Um... do we have any research into human health that shows that not having sex causes health problems? Social isolation & lack of physical contact, yes, I think there's evidence that's harmful.

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. Ruth Abrams‏ @RuthieAA Apr 29
      Replying to @RuthieAA @AbuKedem

      Just to be clear, @absurdistwords is arguing against an "incels have a point" position, which is that men must have sex with "sufficiently attractive" women. Or else? Or else society deserves it when they conduct terrorist attacks.

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    4. Y Chromo‏ @XY_is_easier Apr 30
      Replying to @RuthieAA @AbuKedem @absurdistwords

      Read this and you’ll see the issue is much deeper than sex. I think many of these men crave intimacy that comes with a relationship and not just sex.https://amp.thedailybeast.com/sympathy-for-the-incel?__twitter_impression=true …

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    5. AbuCarmel/GangstaYid‏ @AbuKedem Apr 30
      Replying to @XY_is_easier @RuthieAA @absurdistwords

      Which nobody owes them either though. You have to, yes, earn it - by making someone want to have such a relationship with you.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Y Chromo‏ @XY_is_easier Apr 30
      Replying to @AbuKedem @RuthieAA @absurdistwords

      The divide here is likely more in the words used which are easily attacked. I’ve been married over 20 years yet have never though I was owed sex, but I have definitely worked at times to help it along. The mood doesn’t just make itself after 3 kids...

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    7. AbuCarmel/GangstaYid‏ @AbuKedem Apr 30
      Replying to @XY_is_easier @RuthieAA @absurdistwords

      The divide between you and me? Sure. Between me and incels? Doubt it.

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      Ruth Abrams‏ @RuthieAA Apr 30
      Replying to @AbuKedem @absurdistwords

      It's worth examining our biases about sexuality & intimacy, since these incel guys prey on vulnerable young men to recruit them to be neo-Nazi types. Our collective ideas about sex owe something to the hidden misogyny they are bringing forward.

      1:48 PM - 30 Apr 2018
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        2. Y Chromo‏ @XY_is_easier Apr 30
          Replying to @RuthieAA @AbuKedem @absurdistwords

          That’s the feeling I got reading the article. I couldn’t help feel for him in middle school when the girls were making fun of him. Honestly, at that age I would have been happy for them to do that to him because that would mean they weren’t doing it to me.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Ruth Abrams‏ @RuthieAA Apr 30
          Replying to @XY_is_easier @AbuKedem @absurdistwords

          Which article? This must have been in a way earlier iteration of the discussion thread.

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        4. Y Chromo‏ @XY_is_easier Apr 30
          Replying to @RuthieAA @AbuKedem @absurdistwords

          Link I posted to you in response - seven up from here.

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        5. Ruth Abrams‏ @RuthieAA Apr 30
          Replying to @XY_is_easier @AbuKedem @absurdistwords

          Oops, sorry and thank you!

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. Y Chromo‏ @XY_is_easier Apr 30
          Replying to @RuthieAA @AbuKedem @absurdistwords

          It’s the only thing I’ve read on an incel that wasn’t full of hate and spit against them.

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        7. Ruth Abrams‏ @RuthieAA Apr 30
          Replying to @XY_is_easier @AbuKedem @absurdistwords

          I think the group deserves hate & spite. The individual young men who had bad experiences that led them there do not. The group has reactionary misogynistic & racist tendencies. Individual young men are redeemable humans.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8. Y Chromo‏ @XY_is_easier Apr 30
          Replying to @RuthieAA @AbuKedem @absurdistwords

          I’m not sure I know enough about it. I’m still working on my TERF/trans men divide, the far left and the far far left, toxic masculinity everywhere & the goofy name calling between all. Def not a healthy enviro, but how to stop from going there and to pull them back?

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        9. Ruth Abrams‏ @RuthieAA Apr 30
          Replying to @XY_is_easier @AbuKedem @absurdistwords

          To stop people from going there, stop tolerating bullying in schools--preventative anti bullying programming. Provide good extracurriculars so kids make friends. Also there is this group, Life After Hate.https://www.npr.org/2018/01/18/578745514/a-former-neo-nazi-explains-why-hate-drew-him-in-and-how-he-got-out …

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