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Assistant Professor at Penn State studying cognitive neuroscience of creativity.

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    Roger Beaty‏ @Roger_Beaty Nov 19

    Are intelligence and creativity really so different? In our new preprint, we aimed to quantify the overlap of intelligence and creativity (DT) in brain & behavior We found ~40% of the variance in creativity scores could be explained by g! More here: http://psyarxiv.com/hj3fr/ pic.twitter.com/ds0RFcO4Y1

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      1. Roger Beaty‏ @Roger_Beaty Nov 19

        Shouts out to the lead author, Emily Frith - a grad student from UMiss who visited our lab over the summer - and all our outstanding co-authors: @danielelbich, @alexpaulchrist, @monicarosenb, @cqllogic, Paul Silvia, and @Paul_Seli!

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      2. Scott Barry Kaufman‏Verified account @sbkaufman Nov 20
        Replying to @Roger_Beaty

        Just read the paper in its entirety; despite my quibbles it's a very well done study and I am so impressed with how far you have come in your career and am so proud of you, Roger!

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      3. Roger Beaty‏ @Roger_Beaty Nov 20
        Replying to @sbkaufman

        Thank you, Scott! This work wouldn't have been possible without the support of you and the Templeton Foundation/Imagination Institute. So much important work came from that project - thanks to your vision and commitment to the future of creativity research

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      2. Scott Barry Kaufman‏Verified account @sbkaufman Nov 19
        Replying to @Roger_Beaty @jayvanbavel

        Nice work, but 40% of the variance is not really great prediction when it comes to predicting an individual's creative thinking based on their IQ score, especially in a high-stakes testing environment.

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      3. John Kounios‏ @JohnKounios Nov 19
        Replying to @sbkaufman @Roger_Beaty @jayvanbavel

        I would add that divergent thinking isn't a pure measure of creativity. That 40% of predicted variance could reflect non-creative processes like working-memory capacity etc. That said, the fluid intelligence part of IQ probably does support people's ability to deal with novelty.

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      1. 𝔊𝔴𝔢𝔯𝔫‏ @gwern Nov 19
        Replying to @Roger_Beaty @rjhaier

        I was amused to discover reading https://www.gwern.net/docs/psychology/writing/1970-vernon-creativity.pdf … from 1970 that even then, creativity studies had been dogged for decades by the problem of distinguishing a measure of 'creativity' from just good old intelligence. Seems the relationship runs deep indeed.

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      1. Denial Must End‏ @johann_theron Nov 19
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        I read a consultant's book 1987 advising Corps on young engineer appointments (Hewlett Packard printers) with the express requirement that they had to be creative. His tests then identified conservative upbringing as a pointer.

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      1. Darya L. Zabelina‏ @darya_zabelina Nov 19
        Replying to @Roger_Beaty

        Very cool! Although DT tests can be similar to the measures of g in terms of the structural features?

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      1. Stuart Sims‏ @SimsYStuart Nov 19
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        Can anyone think of an example which contradicts this correlation between IQ and creativity? Any famous artistic people who were famously creative, yet appeared to be of low intelligence?

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      1. Dr Karl K. Jeffries‏ @DrKarlKJeffries Nov 20
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        As you say @Roger_Beaty et al. going to be fascinating to compare with domain-specific measures of creativity as we move forward. Very different methods to above (2017), using the CAT and KBIT (IQ was a CV), I couldn't find a correlation for graphic design creativity.

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