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    Robyn Urback‏Verified account @RobynUrback Apr 25

    Genuine question: at this point, is there any publicly available evidence linking Alek Minassian to the Incel movement beyond his Facebook post?

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      1. Robyn Urback‏Verified account @RobynUrback Apr 25

        Further to that, this is the first report I've seen of Minassian's "racist ideologies." Again genuine question: where did that come from? https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/2018/04/24/after-van-attack-toronto-must-go-beyond-momentary-compassion.html …pic.twitter.com/Udx9KhHZyZ

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      2. Phrenamorphic‏ @phrenamorphic Apr 25
        Replying to @RobynUrback

        Better question, how do we know so much detailed information about Minassian, killer of 10 people, but don’t even know the name of the Humboldt driver and killer of 19?

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      3. Robyn Urback‏Verified account @RobynUrback Apr 25
        Replying to @phrenamorphic

        Minassian was arrested and charged. The Humboldt driver was not

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      4. Phrenamorphic‏ @phrenamorphic Apr 25
        Replying to @RobynUrback

        But are charges pending and the media is waiting for that? Or is his identity and the cause of the crash only newsworthy if the police file a charge?

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      5. Robyn Urback‏Verified account @RobynUrback Apr 25
        Replying to @phrenamorphic

        He was detained by police but let go. Newsworthiness aside, when the police arrest someone his/her name is released publicly.

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      6. Phrenamorphic‏ @phrenamorphic Apr 25
        Replying to @RobynUrback

        So if no charges are laid we’ll never know and the media will never find out? Don’t journalists investigate things? Surely there’s a lead - a civil claim, if only for property damage. You don’t think it’s weird we know nothing about this guy or what caused a national tragedy?

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      7. Robyn Urback‏Verified account @RobynUrback Apr 25
        Replying to @phrenamorphic

        I think his name will probably come out. For his own protection, I can understand why it hasn't yet

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Phrenamorphic‏ @phrenamorphic Apr 25
        Replying to @RobynUrback

        I think the media has failed if these deaths aren’t explored with the same ugency as any other.

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      2. max power‏ @HeTalkinSiht Apr 25
        Replying to @RobynUrback

        Incel community is run almost entirely through message boards with screen names. Would be tough to link him to it unless Reddit and 4chan co-operate which is unlikely.

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. Robyn Urback‏Verified account @RobynUrback Apr 25
        Replying to @HeTalkinSiht

        Police will seize his devices, from which one could surely establish a connection. Of course, that evidence won't be publicly available for a long while

        5 replies 1 retweet 19 likes
      4. max power‏ @HeTalkinSiht Apr 25
        Replying to @RobynUrback

        Agreed.

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      2. Nick McLean‏ @Nocmclean Apr 25
        Replying to @RobynUrback

        I wish everyone would wait until the police release the details of their investigation before speculating.

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      3. |De'vID⟩‏ @dlyongemallo Apr 25
        Replying to @Nocmclean @RobynUrback

        |De'vID⟩ Retweeted CBC News Alerts

        But given that the Facebook post was confirmed as authentic, that part isn't speculation any more.https://twitter.com/CBCAlerts/status/988786051924791296?s=20 …

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        CBC News AlertsVerified account @CBCAlerts
        UPDATE: Facebook confirms to CBC's Matthew Braga @mattbraga that the post from Alek Minassian referencing "The Incel Rebellion" and Elliot Rodger is real, and was posted publicly on his profile before Facebook shut it down.
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      4. Sarah Ella‏ @RealSarahElla Apr 25
        Replying to @dlyongemallo @Nocmclean @RobynUrback

        Thank you! Evidence right here! And IT DOES MATTER!!!

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Amazing Polly‏ @99freemind Apr 25
        Replying to @RealSarahElla @dlyongemallo and

        there are still questions surrounding the authenticity. but everyone's going to believe what they want to believe anyway. There's literally no evidence we can check on for ANY of this.

        2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      6. |De'vID⟩‏ @dlyongemallo Apr 25
        Replying to @99freemind @RealSarahElla and

        Who's "we"? Witnesses have reported he acknowledged writing the Facebook post and confirmed his motivation as hatred of women. If you want to personally check this, I guess you have to visit the courthouse/jail yourself, but this is why we have reporters.http://torontosun.com/news/crime/warmington-accused-van-killer-says-in-jail-that-he-wanted-to-be-shot-witness/ …

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      7. Amazing Polly‏ @99freemind Apr 25
        Replying to @dlyongemallo @RealSarahElla and

        lol how authoritarian of you. Can you see his face from that photo? No? that's the point.

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      8. |De'vID⟩‏ @dlyongemallo Apr 25
        Replying to @99freemind @RealSarahElla and

        What did I say that was authoritarian? And are you suggesting that because you can't see his face in that photo, you don't believe it's him? There's a judge, at least two police officers, reporters and a photographer in the room with him, why would his identity be in question?

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      2. Laura Jean‏ @lauraincapetown Apr 25
        Replying to @RobynUrback

        No, there isn’t. And it’s leading to some genuinely gross hot takes about autistic people that I, as a mom if a preschooler who goes to a school for disabled kids, would caution anyone and everyone against.

        2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
      3. Maria Radford‏ @mvradford Apr 25
        Replying to @lauraincapetown @RobynUrback

        Autism is a relatively new ‘label’ for a group of people with intellectual & emotional disability). When a person has a psychotic break, it doesn’t matter whether they had a previous label. it can happen to anyone or be part of a dual diagnosis.

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