Richard Dawkins
Ireland is a civilised country except in this 1 area: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119147/ireland-abortion-case-reveals-draconian-horror-catholic-law … You'd think the Roman Church would have lost all influence.
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@richarddawkins Can you give any reasons why one question or the other matters?
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@Roland_DeVries Yes. Suffering should be avoided. Cause no suffering. Reduce suffering wherever you can.
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@RichardDawkins Telling people their lives are worthless causes suffering. -
@bfinstock@RichardDawkins Intimidation of people causes suffering. - View other replies
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@intelligent50@richarddawkins You're right. Telling people they're not worthy to live is a major form of intimidation.
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@RichardDawkins@Roland_DeVries By your reckoning, madman who exterminates us all painlessly would be greater moral figure in history. -
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@richarddawkins Not going to get you very far, ethically speaking. Also, this assertion of yours backs into an infinite number of "whys". -
@Roland_DeVries Avoiding suffering is not going to get you far ethically? What the hell is morality if not that? - View other replies
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@gsd_stevb …of suffering, you don't have much/enough. I think Dawkins lacks a foundation for most of his ethical arguments. -
@gsd_stevb Well, how about Aristotle's virtues: courage, temperance, prudence, generosity. That's a pretty minimal place to start… -
@Roland_DeVries All those contribute to the minimisation of suffering. When they don't, they stop being moral. - View other replies
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@gsd_stevb Only a highly reductionistic account could imagine the virtues as being primarily or essentially about reducing suffering. 1/2
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@RichardDawkins@Roland_DeVries Have you seen "Any Day Now?" Should Marco have been aborted? -
@RichardDawkins@Roland_DeVries fetuses feel pain. Abortion causes suffering. -
@RichardDawkins@Roland_DeVries A madman who annihilates the world instantly/painlessly is the greatest moral hero in your world. -
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@RichardDawkins@Roland_DeVries Might removing suffering from an ecosystem result in unintended consequences? -
@RichardDawkins oh because no one suffers with abortion? I'm 100% pro choice but abortion ain't easy for anyone. Silly broad statements. Tut -
@RichardDawkins@Roland_DeVries They don't suffer. You're devaluing life. Is yours any more important than mine? -
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@RichardDawkins@Roland_DeVries Humanity should be wiped out in that case. No humans, no human suffering. -
@RichardDawkins@Roland_DeVries This view led Peter Singer to veganism. Is that an inescapable conclusion re: the lessening of suffering?
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