So all the poeple tweeting about the chrome autoplay update broke your stuff, can you send me links that broke because we are currently implementing a similiar thing in Firefox and would like to make sure we dont break it all
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Replying to @daleharvey
It's really simple. Just make "this site wants to play sound" a popdown allow now/always/deny prompt. No nasty heuristics privileging YT and violating least-surprise. No way for site to tell what user picked.
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Replying to @RichFelker @daleharvey
IMHO Firefox already has the perfect solution, just flip the speaker icon in the tab bar from "enabled" to "disabled" for every new page you visit, and remember how the user decided, could feed *initial* state with a whitelist
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PS, I guess I want to say: please no more popups, it's alsready bad enough with fullscreen and pointer-lock (so a full-screen game with pointer-lock and audio would have 3(!) popups)...
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Replying to @FlohOfWoe @daleharvey
How does this matter? It only happens once ever per site unless you don't pick always or never.
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Replying to @RichFelker @daleharvey
the very first visit to a new site is the important one, this needs to be as seamless and quick as possible, most users won't visit a webpage for a second time anyway, and with more actions required, most users won't even get to the actual page for the first time
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Replying to @FlohOfWoe @daleharvey
Your argument is entirely about favoring publisher experience over user experience. The browser is the user agent not the publisher agent.
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Replying to @RichFelker @daleharvey
The user should still have full control, it's about the defaults. Would you prefer going into options and having to enable audio, fullscreen etc... in a Steam game you just installed? I'm not even arguing against disabling autoplay, just find a better solution than Chrome.
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Replying to @FlohOfWoe @daleharvey
You shouldn't have to go into options, but the defaults have to be right from a standpoint that, when you visit a new site, it's NOT a game you selected to install on your computer but could be malicious or at least intentionally annoying.
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Clicking through the "allow sound" etc. popdown comfirmation is the step equivalent to clicking "install" in Steam or Play/AppStore or whatever. (Sorry, I don't use Steam so I don't know exactly what it looks like.)
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