I'm lost, what has advertising got to do with EV certificates or the CA ecosystem?
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I don't think you can have it both ways here, either ev is useless, or ev is not useless and attacks against the ev ui are harmful. Either way weak proof for the incendiary claim that "browser people" don't care about the user.
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In the case of Safari, the EV UI actually *suppresses* the user's only easy way of seeing that the site is not the one they intended to visit.
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In general, special UI presentation for EV is misleading to users, gives false sense of security and wrongly implies non-EV sites are less secure.
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I don't disagree, but this has nothing to do with the thread you replied to and certainly doesn't prove that "browser people" don't care about users. Does your crypt() implementation support DES? Who's back pocket are you in to support DES in 2018?

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FWIW I don't think they "don't care about users". I just think they give too much weight to interests of other parties who aren't the user. It's improving in some areas, but slowly.
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So your argument is that by showing EV, they aren’t the user’s agent, but instead in the back pocket of CAs?
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Not "in the back pocket". There's no conspiracy or conflict of interest here. I just claim they give to much weight to interests of parties they don't represent & are overly conflict-adverse in ways that fail users' interests.
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And you believe supporting EV is an illustration of that?
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Strangely getting an Amazon DV certificate served for that here ATM.
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It did have a "Stripe, Inc. [US]" EV certificate even just a couple days ago. Maybe some issue with how the site is configured.
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I think the EV cert finally got revoked.
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They got a new one a couple days ago though.
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It says there: "Edit (April 11th, 2018): This site now uses a certificate issued by GoDaddy. Comodo arbitrarily revoked — without any notice — the previous certificate, saying this site was made with the intent to mislead.". Seems like their configuration is screwed up ATM.
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