I think browser people know this but are reluctant to tell the whole CA industry that it will inevitably have to go out of business.
I think I meant the original claim more as "here's yet another place the browsers aren't acting as an agent for the user". Perhaps "proving once again..." was a poor way of saying that.
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I still don't understand, how would "[telling] the whole CA industry that it will inevitably have to go out of business" be acting as an agent for the user? I don't even know that it's true, reasonable people disagree.
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"Preserving EV UI" was the issue, not failure to tell CA industry they're going out of business.
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Nobody claimed that in the thread?

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Where are you quoting from?
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@hanno's "telling the industry" as removing EV from UI. I think others mentioned it explicitly in some branches of the thread. -
Huh, I'm familiar with the argument that ev is useless, and agree. I'm not familiar with the argument that ev is harmful, is that what you're claiming?
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Yeah. See https://stripe.ian.sh/ and especially the Safari behavior.
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I don't think you can have it both ways here, either ev is useless, or ev is not useless and attacks against the ev ui are harmful. Either way weak proof for the incendiary claim that "browser people" don't care about the user.
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