2. EV is the main cash cow and business model of CAs these days.
They're all places where the interests of some third party that don't match (and usually conflict with) the interests of the user are still being preserved more strongly than the interests of the user.
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Your claim was that because browser vendors haven't reached the same conclusion as
@hanno (That commercial CAs are going to die), this proves they aren't an agent for the user. I think you've moved the goalposts here, no? -
I think I meant the original claim more as "here's yet another place the browsers aren't acting as an agent for the user". Perhaps "proving once again..." was a poor way of saying that.
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I still don't understand, how would "[telling] the whole CA industry that it will inevitably have to go out of business" be acting as an agent for the user? I don't even know that it's true, reasonable people disagree.
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"Preserving EV UI" was the issue, not failure to tell CA industry they're going out of business.
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Nobody claimed that in the thread?

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Where are you quoting from?
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@hanno's "telling the industry" as removing EV from UI. I think others mentioned it explicitly in some branches of the thread. -
Huh, I'm familiar with the argument that ev is useless, and agree. I'm not familiar with the argument that ev is harmful, is that what you're claiming?
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