2. EV is the main cash cow and business model of CAs these days.
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3. take that together and you come to the inevitable conclusion there is no credible business model for CAs, their whole business depends on telling users that they need something which they don't need.
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I think browser people know this but are reluctant to tell the whole CA industry that it will inevitably have to go out of business.
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Replying to @hanno
Proving once again that the browser people inexplicably want the browser to be the agent of everyone but the person it's nominally an agent for: the user.
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Browsers are constantly adding features to act as Publisher-Agent, Advertiser-Agent, CA-Agent, etc. and treating being User-Agent as an afterthought...
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If you know of anyone who fights harder for the user with the CAs than "the browser people", please enlighten me, because that must be a sight to behold.
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Is anyone else in a position to? Arguably Let's Encrypt's sponsors do by funding the project that will eventually bring down the CA industry, but aside from that browsers are the main party with any influence.
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Replying to @RichFelker @hanno
Name the top sponsors. I'll give you a clue, there are some browser people in there.
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Yes, and I don't want to demonize browser vendors and especially not individual ppl working on browsers.
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But I do think, as a whole, the browser space is still way too caught up in making flashy things to make themselves attractive as platform for publishers/apps (& thereby, indirectly, ads), and nowhere near enough to push the interests (safety, accessibility, control, &c) of users
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