The whole Extended Validation debate comes down to a few truths some people aren't yet willing to face:
I agree they've done some good things and are improving, but it's a constant battle getting them to do the right thing in these areas (not just CA, thinking more about Publisher/Advertiser-Agent) especially when one of the big browsers is owned by an Ad giant.
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ad-space: different issue. tend to agree there, particularly after google first announced to ban bad ads and then we learned that basically nothing qualifies as a bad ad
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I'm lost, what has advertising got to do with EV certificates or the CA ecosystem?
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They're all places where the interests of some third party that don't match (and usually conflict with) the interests of the user are still being preserved more strongly than the interests of the user.
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Your claim was that because browser vendors haven't reached the same conclusion as
@hanno (That commercial CAs are going to die), this proves they aren't an agent for the user. I think you've moved the goalposts here, no? -
I think I meant the original claim more as "here's yet another place the browsers aren't acting as an agent for the user". Perhaps "proving once again..." was a poor way of saying that.
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I still don't understand, how would "[telling] the whole CA industry that it will inevitably have to go out of business" be acting as an agent for the user? I don't even know that it's true, reasonable people disagree.
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"Preserving EV UI" was the issue, not failure to tell CA industry they're going out of business.
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Nobody claimed that in the thread?

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Where are you quoting from?
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