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    1. Eleanor Saittah ah ah‏ @Dymaxion Apr 12

      Eleanor Saittah ah ah Retweeted Raphaël Vinot

      Expect registering a domain to get more expensive as registrars have to hire dozens more customer service staff.https://twitter.com/rafi0t/status/984398893696811008 …

      Eleanor Saittah ah ah added,

      Raphaël Vinot @rafi0t
      The DNS registrars don't get the way CERTs and CSIRTs use whois interfaces to inform victims. If we can't mail the victims, we will have to drop a mail to their registrar so they inform with the victims. That's thousands of mails/day, and time sensitive requests. #GDPR
      1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
    2. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Apr 12
      Replying to @Dymaxion

      I don't follow. Why would registrars spend money on customer service staff to help people who aren't their customers reach their customers?

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    3. Eleanor Saittah ah ah‏ @Dymaxion Apr 12
      Replying to @RichFelker

      Because if they don't, they'll eventually get blackholed off the internet. CERTs can also (eventually) often draw on MLATS and compel compliance.

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    4. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Apr 12
      Replying to @Dymaxion

      I think I'm missing a lot of context. But it doesn't seem like your registrar's responsibility to tell you your website got owned and is serving malware or whatever.

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    5. Raphaël Vinot‏ @rafi0t Apr 12
      Replying to @RichFelker @Dymaxion

      (I work for the Luxembourgish CERT, here is more context) We receive notifications about compromised .lu website. Today, we get the contact point in the whois record, and send a mail (that process is automated). If whois isn't there, our closest contact point is the registrar.

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    6. Raphaël Vinot‏ @rafi0t Apr 12
      Replying to @rafi0t @RichFelker @Dymaxion

      Relatively often, it is possible to manually search a contact point on the website itself, but it is a lot harder to automate. Out approach will be to ask the company owning the IP for a takedown, instead of informing the owner of the domain. This part can be automated.

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    7. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Apr 12
      Replying to @rafi0t @Dymaxion

      I see lots of potential solutions that don't involve any customer service work by registrar. Ideally whois would just eliminate PII and provide a forwarding email for the registrant. But in absence of that...

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      Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Apr 12
      Replying to @RichFelker @rafi0t @Dymaxion

      But from your side you can just mail well-known addresses @ the domain and the one published in the SOA. If these don't work, I don't have much sympathy for the customer who doesn't get informed about the compromise. They should ensure standard contact mechanisms work.

      10:43 AM - 12 Apr 2018
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        1. Raphaël Vinot‏ @rafi0t Apr 12
          Replying to @RichFelker @Dymaxion

          Guessing email addresses is an option, but then we need to check the bounces and so on. Now, we have an actual contact point the owner is actually using. No, we will contact the registrars, and the hosting company, we know those email addresses are valid and a human read them.

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