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    1. Actually,‏ @eaton Apr 10

      “Who here believes Facebook is unethical?” [hands rise] “Okay, who here has added a tracking pixel to a site at a client’s request?” [hands sheepishly rise] “Okay, now we return to the trolley problem…” A++++ #drupalcon session by @drnikki

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      Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Apr 10
      Replying to @eaton @drnikki

      To be fair it's a matter of scale. "Who thinks embezzling $100M from a charity is unethical?" "OK who's ever stolen a pack of gum?"

      1:29 PM - 10 Apr 2018
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        2. Marc Schneider‏ @MMarc703 Apr 11
          Replying to @RichFelker @eaton @drnikki

          Ethics is not about size, so the gum argument doesn't hold. If you said bread to feed your starving family, then it might be ethical. See the "veil of ignorance argument."

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        3. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Apr 11
          Replying to @MMarc703 @eaton @drnikki

          Implying that someone who has done "unethical" things with relatively small impact has no ground to criticize world-altering-scale unethical acts is disingenuous and harmful.

          2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
        4. Actually,‏ @eaton Apr 11
          Replying to @RichFelker @MMarc703 @drnikki

          Context: she wasn’t suggesting that people were hypocrites! Rather, exploring the ethical tangliness of direct participation, etc… this the trolley problem!

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        5. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Apr 11
          Replying to @eaton @MMarc703 @drnikki

          Yeah seems we're missing all the context.

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        2. allo‏ @_allo Apr 11
          Replying to @RichFelker @eaton @drnikki

          But most tracking pixels are the little mosaic pieces coming from big companies, i.e. google analytics, building these kind of big tracking.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Apr 11
          Replying to @_allo @eaton @drnikki

          And most abusive companies' and people's money flows up from purchases made by individuals. That doesn't mean the latter are responsible for it or even have the power to change it. Responsibility rests on those owning/building/operating the machinery of oppression.

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        4. allo‏ @_allo Apr 11
          Replying to @RichFelker @eaton @drnikki

          You have the power to remove tracking pixels on your website, don't you?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Apr 11
          Replying to @_allo @eaton @drnikki

          Well I don't have any to begin with. But if someone does and they're not Amazon/Google/FB/etc.-scale, their choice to remove it or not is not going to make any significant impact on the adtech/surveillance industry.

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        6. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Apr 11
          Replying to @RichFelker @_allo and

          Just like your choice to buy a hybrid car or ride a bike is not going to make any significant impact on climate change. Only imposing policy to force everyone (esp. the big players) to change can make any impact.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. allo‏ @_allo Apr 11
          Replying to @RichFelker @eaton @drnikki

          Indeed. But everyone can contribute a little bit. Of course, smaller analytics companies are not that dangerous. Yet. Self hosting is better

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. allo‏ @_allo Apr 11
          Replying to @_allo @RichFelker and

          And some things can change from small choices. Always remember, the outcome of an election depends on a lot of single "meaningless" votes.

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        9. allo‏ @_allo Apr 11
          Replying to @_allo @RichFelker and

          And yeah, I am absolutely pro regulations to prevent such stuff, so we actually stop the big players. GDPR may be a good start, we will see.

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        2. william ricker‏ @n1vux Apr 10
          Replying to @RichFelker @eaton @drnikki

          The problem is in Social Media and online privacy the ethical lapses are transitive&cumulative, and also combine with the oopsies

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        3. william ricker‏ @n1vux Apr 10
          Replying to @n1vux @RichFelker and

          Your pack of gum and my pack of gum dont combine into GTA, but in GTA, two lapses might combine into a dox

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        1. Laurent Bercot‏ @laurentbercot Apr 10
          Replying to @RichFelker @eaton @drnikki

          No developer gets told "your job is to leak personal data to Cambridge Analytica" and says yes. But thousands of developers add tracking pixels, because it's so insignificant. Dilution of responsibility, and you get a huge evil machinery. The Nuremberg trials showed that, too.

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